Understanding Heaven: Identity, Transformation, and God's Presence

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"Because there's so much opinion about this and we're going to stand before God right so his word is the standard through which everything should be filtered and I kind of enjoy some of those things sometimes a little bit, you know, what did you what's the experience you it doesn't take very long to talk to people and they'll talk about I was present in the room and they raised their hands and they spoke out something and that's probably all legit maybe maybe accurate you know an experience but it's an experience." [00:04:15]

"We don't want to build our decisions particularly about eternity based upon things that are subjective experiential when we have God's word revealing all that we need to know about the subject and so if you want to you want to check out those things that's your business but we try to stick to what does the word say which is going to make this difficult today and the questions that are submitted because man there's not very many of them that are in the Bible." [00:04:15]

"The difficulty is I tried to process through that marriage was given to us in Genesis chapter 2 Adam and Eve perfect world harmonious relationship with God incomplete without each other see that that's the part that really I wrestle with because in Revelation 21 when he says I'm making all things new we've talked about that it clearly is the indication of the word new there is the regeneration the restoration not a creation of something that's never existed before so he's going to make all things brand new we're going to reverse the curse which is Genesis chapter 2." [00:10:16]

"So yeah I think there's a continuity of existence from here to there like we retain our identities it seems to be clear it's different you know Moses and Elijah were transfigured there's their presence was unique Jesus although I think he could have done so before he was God after the resurrection you know he has he enters locked rooms he does things yet he eats and has scars. So he's the same, but he's changed." [00:13:47]

"Just the question about marriage, particularly relationship nature, I think it's important to understand that what God takes and we don't receive, I said takes is even a wrong word, what he changes to something else, it's always better. It's going to be better. And it's hard for us to grasp what that would be." [00:14:22]

"That to me was one of the, the best things I received when I was studying for this, this series, this whole message. When I was looking at, and I love Revelation 21, no more, no more tears, no more pain, no more death, no more sorrow, no more, you know, the new order of things has come. Behold, I'm making everything new. The Alpha and the Omega says that Jesus says that." [00:19:05]

"I love that passage, right? Because of all the rough stuff, the bad stuff that we have. The bad stuff that we have to deal with, the feelings that we experience, gone, totally gone. And so when I was studying that, it was, it was exciting when I, when I went just past that section and it starts describing now this massive new heaven and new earth and, and what's transpiring there." [00:19:05]

"When I read that, this is, this is really a description of the Holy of Holies on steroids, like blown up. And what's the Holy of Holies? God. The dwelling place of God. The shekinah of God would come to dwell the glory the radiant glory of God would be there and he wasn't just limited to there but he was there right and then you get the whole you know the priests and the temple veil being torn so that now we have access to enter into the holy of holies and that's that's what that's what we're going to see that's what we need to anticipate we actually get to experience the fullness of the glory of God and survive." [00:19:05]

"Well I think I think it's Chip Ingram that said it that it's so true a misunderstanding about heaven messes us up leaves up to a wasted life wasted life there's a concept that's promoted you know hell is just going to be a big party and heaven's going to be a church service let's go to the party right and that is so wrong." [00:24:49]

"And it's not the default location right I think we've got to remember that too you know if we're able to make a choice it's not the default location we have to choose Christ which will be one of our questions in a bit but let's let's jump into this okay here's what people ask and I just gotta ask you yes or no if you'd like to add some comment to it can we." [00:27:01]

"Some point you've got to come to and we don't know the answer we don't know the answer for anybody ultimately that's in the hands of God who's the judge right we can't declare their saved or not so that's not our position thankfully no yeah for all in any right um we can have some confidence in folks I've preached enough funerals to know some folks yeah pretty confident right um but it comes to this idea of Jesus and the sacrifice of Christ being once and for all so it it is his sacrifice good enough to cover everybody's sins in the past who didn't even know of him but just anticipated a messiah yes everybody who was present yes and we are 2 000 years removed and it was sufficient for our yeah yeah so he knows our sin before before we commit it and he died for it I think it comes down to where they're at with Jesus." [00:50:23]

"The way we died doesn't define the way we lived it's very true thing but I was told in a counseling class if somebody is distraught and contemplating suicide and they ask can you be forgiven of this don't ever give them that out that is the only thing that keeps some people alive going now I can't lie I don't feel like to someone but I can say that my choice to make you but you're going to stand before God you and so you need to wrestle with that that's an interesting thing that people would feel so bad that they want to get out of this world but yeah they want to make sure they're ready for the next." [00:52:07]

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