Understanding God's Sovereignty Amidst Evil and Suffering

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He gave him a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of satan that he might not be conceited. Now satan is not in the business of keeping people from being conceited. God is. This is God's thorn, and satan is used to do it. So this is God using satan to sanctify Paul. [00:42:52]

You meant evil against me but God meant it for good, same word in Hebrew meant, not meant used. So you can't say oh we've got a text here that says humans or satan means evil, but God only uses evil. He doesn't ever will that it come to pass. This is not true. [00:40:01]

The worst sin in the history of the world was predestined to take place by God. He didn't just use the death of Jesus; he planned the death of Jesus, which really gets to the heart of the matter why I can get worked up about people who deny the sovereignty of God. [00:40:49]

God foresees the possibility that this could make his ego go bonkers and become defeated and proud, and so it says he gave him a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of satan that he might not be conceited. Now satan is not in the business of keeping people from being conceited. [00:42:52]

God sees to it that the greatest horrors in the world happen, which includes the slaughter of children, includes cannibalism, mothers cannibalizing their children. And there's a part of me that just wants to say, John Piper, do you really mean that? [00:44:00]

I pray God will grant me the grace to be submissive to his will and weep with those who weep and trust the sovereignty of God. You know that when I get into the pastoral issue, then that's a good transition. [00:51:30]

We need to see this. So what do you see in those places when, or maybe the question is, when you see providence and the horrors like that, what happens for John Piper? [00:45:38]

I think one of the reasons I probably believe what I believe is because I was terrified at the fire in my father's eyes, and there wasn't a funnier and happier man on the planet than my father. I lived with the paradox of the Bible at home. [00:54:17]

I pray God will grant me the grace to be submissive to his will and weep with those who weep and trust the sovereignty of God. You know that when I get into the pastoral issue, then that's a good transition. [00:51:30]

I think they should say up front to their people that he's going to be patient with them as they come along, especially when it comes to the issues of sovereignty and free will or sovereignty and suffering, because he's going to say some things that are going to be mind-boggling to people. [00:56:07]

I pray God will grant me the grace to be submissive to his will and weep with those who weep and trust the sovereignty of God. You know that when I get into the pastoral issue, then that's a good transition. [00:51:30]

I pray God will grant me the grace to be submissive to his will and weep with those who weep and trust the sovereignty of God. You know that when I get into the pastoral issue, then that's a good transition. [00:51:30]

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