Understanding God's Righteous Judgment and Our Response

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This righteous Judgment of God is that you may be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are also suffering since indeed God considers it just to repay, and then two repayments first he repays Affliction to those who afflict you and he repays relief with us to you who are afflicted so retribution and relief are the repayment that is just. [00:55:44]

The Vengeance that he gives in this repayment, which is just, is one on those who do not know God and two those who do not obey the gospel and notice the focus shifts from the immediate repayment of affliction on those who afflict you that's a very small and prescribed number of people in Thessalonica who are making life miserable for Christians. [01:08:54]

Obey the gospel means believe all right because the gospel has one main command to be obeyed namely believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved so speaking of obedience to the gospel is believe fundamentally, though probably the word obedience is chosen to signify that there is in this believing the implication that life changes and you obey the wider revelation of God's will. [04:07:19]

Generically speaking the Gentiles outside the sphere of the Gospel don't know God and not knowing god lack the kind of relationship with God that would bring their passions of lust under the right kind of Regulation and control of the spirit. [05:16:82]

The wrath of God is revealed from Heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth that's a very important phrase so even what they presume to know they suppress and in a sense don't know it, for what can be known about God is plain to them so they do know because God is has shown it to them. [05:50:88]

His invisible attributes namely his eternal power and divine nature have been clearly perceived ever since the creation of the world in the things that have been made so they are without excuse so people are without excuse everywhere in the world whether they've heard the gospel or not because what can be known about God is clearly perceived in the creation of the world. [06:23:39]

Although they knew God so there's the fundamental perception that they have and the knowledge that's built in to their own consciences though they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, which is a kind of failure to know him as they ought but they became futile in their thinking and their foolish Hearts were darkened. [06:52:68]

Jesus is saying of course there's a sense in which Jews know about God but they don't know him he says this kind of understanding was what Hosea in the Old Testament was mainly about my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge because you have rejected knowledge I reject you from being a priest to me. [08:42:16]

When it says judgment is coming just repayment is coming on those who do not know God it doesn't mean that they have been cut off from access to the knowledge of God, it means that what they see in creation what they see in their own conscience they suppress and refuse to have God in their knowledge and that's everyone who is not moved to repent and embrace the gospel. [10:59:59]

Paul says that this repayment is coming by way of relief to with us to you does the fact that it says us and you imply that Paul believed that the second coming must happen during the lifetime of Paul and the Thessalonians since he says the repayment is going to be the repayment of a relief on you and us and it's going to be a repayment of Affliction on those who are of afflicting you. [11:38:04]

I don't think so first because Paul elsewhere says he didn't know whether he would live or die before the second coming, but secondly I think the main point here is not that they must be alive for this to happen but that the decisive repayment both of retribution and of relief happens at the second coming whether you're alive or you're dead. [12:25:20]

There's a decisive rest relief reward Eternal blessing for those who have been believing and obedient and there is a decisive judgment retribution repayment on those who have been unbelieving and who do not know God therefore I don't draw the inference that because Paul said the repayment would be to us and you and those who are afflicting you therefore it has to happen within our lifetime. [13:06:80]

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