Transformative Journey: Embracing the Spirit's Work

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"if you through the spirit do mortify the deeds of the flesh you will live and again we can do a whole sermon on that because you do not want to mortify the deeds of the flesh by the deeds of the flesh and that the practice of that is why we don't talk much about mortification anymore is because it was done in a brutal way a legalistic way if you through the spirit do mortify the deeds of the flesh then you live see that's discipline that's training independence on the spirit" [00:02:22]

"the ordinary events of life those are sometimes called temptations trials temptations not in the sense necessarily of solicitation to sin but trials that put you to the test and if you don't take those rightly they can turn into temptations in the other sense this is just ordinary life this is what i've been saying where do we learn this ordinary life at work at home and the community and so forth at play ordinary events and so we have james talking about that count it all joy when you fall call in all kinds of troubles" [00:03:17]

"disciplines are activities that we choose to engage in we have to be able to undertake them things like going into solitude or silence worship is a discipline some of the things like prayer is more than a discipline but it is also a discipline and the key now to understanding a discipline is it's an activity that we can engage in disciplines are not the answers for everyone some people can't do them when we get to this point we're talking to people who are really in relatively good position spiritually" [00:07:04]

"you stop trying to do the things that jesus said and you do the things that will enable you to do the things that jesus said for some of us more sleep would be a spiritual discipline right for some of us a practice of solitude might enable us to stop hurrying hurry is not good you can work hard without hurrying hurrying always involves an attitude of worry of fear of pride that's what drives worry being busy is often an ego thing if i'm busy i'm important" [00:08:31]

"you need a vision of the goodness of what you're thinking about now that's where we go back to our gospel our gospel is what creates the vision if you want to make disciples you have to communicate a vision of the goodness of living in the kingdom of god you have to create that vision you do that by preaching the gospel of jesus you present the kingdom of god in a winsome way and you present jesus in his loveliness as a person and his availability so you have to communicate that" [00:11:32]

"now if the vision is strong you can form the intention to be that way and if that intention is there you can make a decision to do it all of that has to happen you cannot slide into that you do not become a disciple by accident you have to decide that's what i'm going to do now if your vision is not strong you will not be able to do that and it may lead you to getting a bunch of means which you'll never use think of all those programs of learning french that sit on shelves unused" [00:12:57]

"you have to have means that's again is a part of god's plan for people with free will free people with free will have the option of where they're going and that involves steps and taking those steps and realizing that if you choose to be conversant in french you can't just do that so your choice then is in terms of the steps that will lead to that right so you do certain things that's the means you do them because you have the intention and you have the intention because you see the goodness of the vision" [00:16:33]

"i go to church because it is a wonderful means to a wonderful end it's a wonderful means to a wonderful end now i've had to train myself how to go to church for that because among other things i don't go to inspect a preacher i go to love the preacher and i love to pray for the preacher and i visualize christ standing back of him with his hands on his shoulders blessing him as he preaches or she as she preaches see that's a means it's a means to the end but you need to go to church to love people and be loved" [00:18:24]

"joy is a fruit not a something you do by effort it comes as a fruit and the psalms are especially good because they cry out of the darkness out of the depths have i cried unto thee lord hear my voice let your ear be attentive to the voice of my supplication so the psalms are especially good because they go the whole range of emotions and suffering as well as joy so i'm not sure what i can say to that except you want to don't you do not have an obligation to be joyful" [00:22:50]

"joy is a is a profound and pervasive sense of well-being closely related to peace it does not come by effort it comes by indirection and you you can learn how to take the times when there's no consolation if you have the broader vision that god is there too god is in the dark and when you're in the dark you want you don't want to doubt in the dark what you saw in the light so if you are doubting it then you just say well this will god will take care of me" [00:23:56]

"i think the essential thing is to put yourself in a position where you will know the presence of god with you that need not be in solitude and silence it can be on the run for example i find that fasting is more effective when i'm engaged in ministry not when i'm not doing something because of the peculiar nature of fasting i think it works better with action and you experience the difference and then you go back and maybe you read john 4 again and you look at jesus saying to the guys who brought food back out i have me to eat you no not all" [00:28:31]

"you want to encourage them to do specific things and to come to experience the presence of god that's what i would recommend i hope i hit the question" [00:29:36]

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