Thriving Through Productivity: Breaking the Stress Spiral

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"One of the symptoms that you are in the stress spiral is you're constantly thinking of an escape. You always want to build a life that you want to escape from. So when I was burned out 15 years ago, my fantasy was I wanted to go stack boxes in a warehouse. Leadership's hard and people don't do what you tell 'em to do, and organizations don't respond to cause and effect." [08:37]

"The stress spiral, overwhelmed over, committed overwork happens when your time is unfocused. Your energy, your energy level, we'll talk about that is unleveraged. And your priorities keep getting hijacked by other people. And the Thrive cycle is kind of the opposite. So I stumbled on the Thrive Cycle. It was completely, it was intentional but accidental." [09:20]

"I sort of discovered, okay, I'm only at my best about three to five hours a day. And subsequent research has confirmed that. So very short window where you're really at your best, and we can define that in a minute if you want. And what the Thrive Cycle does is it teaches you to do what you're best at when you're at your best and you start to focus your time on those pivotal hours when you're really, you're sharp, you're clear, you're bright, you're thinking, you're in the flow, you're working for some people that's in the morning for summit." [10:22]

"Learn how to live in a way today that will help you thrive tomorrow. And if you really look what's under the stress spiral, people are living in a way today as they're listening to this, that's going to make 'em struggle tomorrow. That's going to make tomorrow harder. You're going to work too many hours, you're going to say yes to too many things. So the Thrive Cycle is built around, no, I'm going to focus my time, going to leverage my energy, going to realize my priorities, and I'm going to live in a way today that will help me thrive tomorrow." [11:51]

"To answer your question directly, what I started to do was guard my green zone. So let's go through the zones really quickly. Green zone those 3, 4, 5 hours a day where you really are sharp. If you're a writer, your ideas are flowing. If you're a manager, your meetings are great. If you are into strategy, like man, your best ideas are flowing. If you're into spreadsheets, you're actually doing some beautiful pivot tables and it's pretty amazing. You're in the flow." [13:54]

"Occasionally you're going to have something that really is like five alarm fire, you got to deal with it. But most days that's not the case. It's just your inbound determines your workflow. This is where you decide, no, this is really important. And I've got a scheme in the book to help you figure this out. But the thumbnail version is simply what is the highest value activity that you bring to your current role? So what is most important?" [14:32]

"Time off will not heal you when the problem is how you spend your time on. Say that again. Time off is. Won't heal you when the problem is how you spend your time on. Wait, Carey, that's amazing. Time off won't heal you when the problem is how you spend time on that may have been worth listening to this entire podcast for that one statement. That's amazing." [23:31]

"Most of the people we know take a sabbatical because they're burned out and exhausted. They go on some retreat, they take three months off, six months off, and then they're like, oh, I'm all better. I'm all healed. Then they come back and bam, they get punched in the face and then they're gone. They quit their job, they switch careers, they do something six months to a year later. They can't take it because what they address, maybe they took care of their soul or their life or their relationships or their money or whatever it was, but they didn't take care of their schedule." [24:19]

"And life is a meat grinder unless you take control of it. So if you have an unsustainable pace, a vacation is not an answer for an unsustainable pace. Feels like an interruption, a sustainable pace is the answer. Yeah. Alright, well, hey, that's all we have time for today. So to all of our listeners, we want to thank you for joining us and I would invite you to check out Carey's new book at your best, how to Get Time, energy, and Priorities working in your Favor." [24:47]

"There's some permission giving involved with this. Would you. Agree? A hundred percent. And I think if you're carrying the weight in that meeting, you should be at least green or yellow. I'll give you a really quick anecdote. Andy, you probably don't know this. There's no reason you would, but I went to one of your campuses a few years ago when I was developing this material and I taught it before I wrote the book." [19:49]

"And when we went there, we kind of did an implementation. It's a large location. You lead a very large organization. They probably had four to 6,000 attending on the weekends at the time. And they had a staff of maybe 80 and their leadership team went back and discovered that the reason they all didn't like their leadership team meeting is everyone was in their yellow or red zone, but they didn't know that." [20:29]

"And so all they did was they moved it on the calendar to, I don't know, 11:00 AM or noon or two or pick a time. And suddenly the meeting had energy. Everybody enjoyed it. They did a lot better. And it's not a question of Friday at four o'clock we're going to have a leadership team meeting because no one likes that meeting. This is Monday to Friday workday. It's adjustments like that." [20:57]

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