Reviving Faith: Embracing Spirit Over Dead Orthodoxy

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"do we come to God's house just to listen to a sermon and to sing our hymns and to meet with one another how often does this vital idea enter into our minds that we're in the presence of the Living God that the holy spirit is in the church that we may feel the touch of his power how much do we think in terms of coming together to meet with God and to worship ship him and to stand before him and to listen to him isn't there this appalling danger that we are just content because we have correct beliefs and we've lost the life the V the vital thing the power the thing that rarely makes worship worship which is in spirit and in truth" [00:17:32]

"the second characteristic of this dead Orthodoxy is and it follows of course directly from the first a dislike of enthusiasm now this is a most important subject a dislike of enthusiasm if you like it in more ibal terms I could put it like this it is to be guilty of quenching the spirit because that is exactly the same thing dislike of enthusiasm is to quench the spirit now those who are familiar with the history of the church and in particular with the history of revivals will know that this is the charge of all charges that has always been brought against people who have been most AC in a period of Revival" [00:18:40]

"the Apostle had to write along those lines to the church at Corinth why was that necessary or if I may put my question in a different way did you feel that that 14th chapter of First Corinthians had much to say to to us does that seem to be a very relevant message to the Church of today even the Evangelical Church at her best and I think you'll agree at once that the subject seemed very remote from us and didn't seem to have much to do with us but isn't that true with so much of the New Testament and why is that the answer is quite simple the New Testament Church was a church that was alive she was filled with the spirit" [00:22:08]

"there are two great principles laid down in the New Testament for our help and guidance in this very matter now I say the line is rather difficult to draw but it's here there are two positions that we can lay down here is the first let everything be done decently and in order there's one position but there's another position quench not the spirit now the the last the second quotation is from the first epistle to the Thessalonians 5 and verse 19 quench not the spirit all right here there they are let everything be done decently and in order 1 Corinthians 14 last verse verse 40 quench not the spirit" [00:24:16]

"confusion there was a great deal of confusion in the Church of Corinth and it arose from the fact that sometimes they were all speaking together they' got excited about this question of speaking with tongues they were not looking at it in a in a scriptural Manner and they were all speaking at the same time and then they were prophesying two or three talking at the same time and the Apostle says look here this is quite wrong God is not the order the author of confusion but of Peace he said if a stranger would come in and suddenly see you all like this he'd only come to one conclusion you remember how he puts it he would say that you are mad" [00:25:21]

"emotionalism you notice I'm not saying emotion I'm saying emotionalism and there is all the difference in the world between those two things emotionalism is a state and a condition in which the emotions have run Riot the emotions are in control they're in a a kind of ecstasy and if emotionalism is bad how much worse is a deliberate attempt to produce it so any effort which deliberately tries to work up the emotions whether by singing or incantation or anything else or as you get it in primitive people so often in various dances and things like that all this of course is just condemned by the New Testament" [00:29:23]

"you will always observe that when forms of service become popular the spirit is less in evidence and you move further away from the New Testament the very characteristic of the New Testament Church was this spontaneity this life this living quality this vivacity but as you fall away from the spirit and his influence everything becomes formal so you have forms of service you will find that the church in every period of declension becomes much more formal in her service she adopts forms of service she tends to turn to liturgy and to Ritual and they like having processions all this is a part of formal religion" [00:34:09]

"when the church is not in Revival you get an emphasis upon choirs and not merely choirs but paid choirs and paid quartets and Sol in the choir and the congregation just sits or stands and listens and the choir even does the singing for them but the moment you get a Revival the people people want to sing themselves now you see this is the exact opposite isn't it this is quenching the spirit there's no need to say it to such people let everything be done decently in in and in order that's their one concern and haven't you noticed this appalling tendency in the church and the life of the church today programs have been coming in everything is mapped out" [00:36:00]

"are we giving the holy Spirit an opportunity are we so tied by our programs that he's excluded why this formality why this tying down of everything what if the spirit should suddenly come I do commend this matter to you very seriously for what it's worth if it's of any interest to anybody this is my main reason for not preaching on the wireless I put it once to one of these religious directors I asked him this question I said what would happen to you our programs if the Holy Spirit suddenly came in and he was man enough and honest enough to admit that rarely that subject that question had never entered their minds" [00:37:43]

"there are churches that are Orthodox but absolutely dead because they're so afraid of the false excitement and the excesses of certain spiritual movements that they Quench and hinder the spirit and deny the true and my last point is this that in our fear of emotionalism there is a grave danger of our banishing emotion all together I am troubled the absence of emotion in the Christian church today oh there's plenty of sentiment but I'm not talking about sentiment sentiment is weak and flabby sentiment is that which a hard man puts on to persuade himself that he's still got some feeling within him no no we don't want sentiment sickly modling sentiment we want emotion that god-given quality" [00:41:20]

"we are so afraid of emotion our whole training and upbringing the whole attitude to life is one that curbs the emotion we feel it is gentlemanly we feel it isn't quite respectable it isn't nice we are stealing the emotions curbing this god-given thing it's true of all branches of Life today it's the blight that is upon the H of life that's why you've no longer got great preaching you haven't got great Statesmen you haven't got great speakers I'm told that in the House of Commons they all read their speeches you've no longer got your men who can move the congregation move the people and lead to some vital decisions" [00:44:18]

"let us consider these two great propositions of the New Testament let everything be done decently and in order certainly but in the name of God quench not the spirit despise not prophesyings and let us come to God's house in Freedom ever expecting the power to descend upon us and to have experiences of God and of Christ that will melt us and move us and break us and make us forget ourselves and approximate a little more closely to the church as she is described and depicted in the pages of the New Testament quench not the spirit despise not prophesies but at the same time prove all things and hold fast to that which is good" [00:45:56]

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