Rejecting God: The Path to Moral Decay
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"God gave them up to describe a single Divine action we are not to think of this in terms of a temporal progression but rather he reiterates uh this one thing that God has done as it finds expression in these various ways so we've been learning that in creation God has made sufficient of himself known to to all of us as his creation so as to leave us without any excuse for not honoring him and praising him and giving him the glory that he deserves." [00:03:00]
"On account of our rebellious status we are inescapably guilty you'll find as review the text he says and so we are without excuse we can't say you haven't made yourself known because you have and since you've made yourself known in all of this Grandeur uh we're beginning to recognize that what we're doing is exactly what the Bible says we're doing so we are inescapably guilty and God at the same time is legitimately angry." [00:04:23]
"This is not some kind of fitful outburst akin to human anger and aggression but rather it is the settled response of an entirely holy God to all that runs up against his provision and his purpose for Humanity in many ways it's the kind of anger that a cancer specialist feels against uh that which is ravaging his patient patient or her patient it's the kind of inevitable anger that a father would feel uh towards that which was ravaging and destroying his son or his daughter Vis A V drugs or whatever it might be." [00:05:02]
"The worst thing would be if God was indifferent if God simply said well go ahead and do whatever you want to do it doesn't matter to me at all but it matters very very much to God and that is why he has set a day of judgment and Paul is making clear that that day will come but he has also executed his judgment in the here and now and that judg M of God in the here and now is there in the moral chaos of the culture to which Paul writes which of course uh for him was first century Rome." [00:06:06]
"One of the great lies of our day is that there is really no Truth at all and all we have to do is respect each other's truth sounds very enlighten enlightened but of course is not enlightened at all objectivity and has has left town logic has left down with it in a world where anything goes and then they exchanged uh God ordered sexuality for that which runs counter to God's plan and purpose in natural relationships." [00:07:47]
"Although this was written to first century Rome uh it is so amazingly up todate in 21st century America that is because it is the word of God and if he was aware of that in Rome we are If we're honest aware of the fact that that same kind of preoccupation has a center stage in large segments of our contemporary culture not least of all in education in the media and in various ways as well." [00:08:49]
"The behavior as expressed is not the root of the problem uh the behavior is the result of the exchanges that have been made and the consequence of making these decisions and it is to this consequence that we now come in relationship to a debased mind now he moves on to this as I've noticed in listening to people and in Reading myself I realize that in these further expressions of what is essentially a culture in Decay." [00:10:12]
"God's response in Wrath his judicial judicial abandonment if you like is revealed equally in the antisocial Dimensions as well as in the censal dimensions so so he has dealt if you like in 26 and 27 with human sexuality and sensuality that has gone wrong that has turned itself literally upside down and when he goes on to say what he now says in the list that we're about to see we ought not to think that somewh other that is because he wants to deaden the impact of verses 26 and 27." [00:10:43]
"Since they did not see fit to acknowledge God God gave them up to a debased mind to a debased mind in other words they decided that they were too high and mighty to acknowledge God in the everyday ins and outs of human activity now that's not a bizarre thought is it you take the general population in which we live you don't usually go into restaurant and see people bowing down in prayer." [00:13:53]
"God says well you know since you think you're so above me I'm actually going to make you prisoners of your own supposed Freedom that which you call Freedom will become a prison to you and you will notice since they did not see fit to acknowledge God we didn't want to give them a place you look back to verse 21 although they knew God they did not honor him they didn't give thanks to him their their thinking became fule and their hearts uh were darkened." [00:15:01]
"Sin you see doesn't leave our rational faculties alone this a very important thing when we talk about depravity when we talk about total depravity we don't mean that everybody's as bad as they could possibly be the Bible doesn't mean that what it means is that there is no dimension of human existence that is unaffected by sin sin is a is a condition before it is ever an action and so our minds are affected and in fact God says I gave them over to a debased mind." [00:16:23]
"The distortions of sin result in the fact that we think crookedly that doesn't mean that people are not able to think but it means that the perspective from which they think is affected by sin and so we live in a culture where the the only hymn we really sing is anything goes and anything goes so if anything goes who's to say what ought not to be done they just look at the phrase he gave them up to a debase mind to do what ought not to be done." [00:18:25]
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"On account of our rebellious status we are inescapably guilty you'll find as review the text he says and so we are without excuse we can't say you haven't made yourself known because you have and since you've made yourself known in all of this Grandeur uh we're beginning to recognize that what we're doing is exactly what the Bible says we're doing so we are inescapably guilty and God at the same time is legitimately angry." [00:04:23]
"This is not some kind of fitful outburst akin to human anger and aggression but rather it is the settled response of an entirely holy God to all that runs up against his provision and his purpose for Humanity in many ways it's the kind of anger that a cancer specialist feels against uh that which is ravaging his patient patient or her patient it's the kind of inevitable anger that a father would feel uh towards that which was ravaging and destroying his son or his daughter Vis A V drugs or whatever it might be." [00:05:02]
"The worst thing would be if God was indifferent if God simply said well go ahead and do whatever you want to do it doesn't matter to me at all but it matters very very much to God and that is why he has set a day of judgment and Paul is making clear that that day will come but he has also executed his judgment in the here and now and that judg M of God in the here and now is there in the moral chaos of the culture to which Paul writes which of course uh for him was first century Rome." [00:06:06]
"One of the great lies of our day is that there is really no Truth at all and all we have to do is respect each other's truth sounds very enlighten enlightened but of course is not enlightened at all objectivity and has has left town logic has left down with it in a world where anything goes and then they exchanged uh God ordered sexuality for that which runs counter to God's plan and purpose in natural relationships." [00:07:47]
"Although this was written to first century Rome uh it is so amazingly up todate in 21st century America that is because it is the word of God and if he was aware of that in Rome we are If we're honest aware of the fact that that same kind of preoccupation has a center stage in large segments of our contemporary culture not least of all in education in the media and in various ways as well." [00:08:49]
"The behavior as expressed is not the root of the problem uh the behavior is the result of the exchanges that have been made and the consequence of making these decisions and it is to this consequence that we now come in relationship to a debased mind now he moves on to this as I've noticed in listening to people and in Reading myself I realize that in these further expressions of what is essentially a culture in Decay." [00:10:12]
"God's response in Wrath his judicial judicial abandonment if you like is revealed equally in the antisocial Dimensions as well as in the censal dimensions so so he has dealt if you like in 26 and 27 with human sexuality and sensuality that has gone wrong that has turned itself literally upside down and when he goes on to say what he now says in the list that we're about to see we ought not to think that somewh other that is because he wants to deaden the impact of verses 26 and 27." [00:10:43]
"Since they did not see fit to acknowledge God God gave them up to a debased mind to a debased mind in other words they decided that they were too high and mighty to acknowledge God in the everyday ins and outs of human activity now that's not a bizarre thought is it you take the general population in which we live you don't usually go into restaurant and see people bowing down in prayer." [00:13:53]
"God says well you know since you think you're so above me I'm actually going to make you prisoners of your own supposed Freedom that which you call Freedom will become a prison to you and you will notice since they did not see fit to acknowledge God we didn't want to give them a place you look back to verse 21 although they knew God they did not honor him they didn't give thanks to him their their thinking became fule and their hearts uh were darkened." [00:15:01]
"Sin you see doesn't leave our rational faculties alone this a very important thing when we talk about depravity when we talk about total depravity we don't mean that everybody's as bad as they could possibly be the Bible doesn't mean that what it means is that there is no dimension of human existence that is unaffected by sin sin is a is a condition before it is ever an action and so our minds are affected and in fact God says I gave them over to a debased mind." [00:16:23]
"The distortions of sin result in the fact that we think crookedly that doesn't mean that people are not able to think but it means that the perspective from which they think is affected by sin and so we live in a culture where the the only hymn we really sing is anything goes and anything goes so if anything goes who's to say what ought not to be done they just look at the phrase he gave them up to a debase mind to do what ought not to be done." [00:18:25]
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