Radical Commitment to Christ: Transforming Lives Together

Summary

In reflecting on the journey of our church, it's essential to revisit the foundational mission that has guided us since our inception 16 years ago: to develop fully devoted followers of Christ. This mission remains unchanged and is as vital today as it was at the beginning. Our commitment involves four key actions: bringing people into the kingdom of God, building them up through discipleship, training them to discover and use their God-given gifts, and sending them out to impact the world. This holistic approach ensures that we are not just Sunday Christians but active participants in God's work throughout the week.

The analogy of a halftime locker room talk serves as a reminder that we are in the midst of a spiritual game with much left to accomplish. We are called to be more than receivers of God's blessings; we must also be givers, sharing the love and truth of Christ with those around us. This requires breaking away from traditional constraints and embracing a radical obedience to God's call, much like Jesus did when He ministered to those society deemed untouchable.

Our church is committed to breaking man-made rules that hinder the spread of the gospel, believing God for the impossible, and redefining success not by numbers but by transformed lives. We are inspired by historical figures like Martin Luther and John Wesley, who broke societal norms to advance God's kingdom. Their courage challenges us to step out in faith, trusting God to do immeasurably more than we can ask or imagine.

Generosity is a core value, and we strive to be a church that gives freely, reflecting God's abundant love. This generosity extends beyond finances to include our time, talents, and resources, ensuring that no one is left out due to lack of means. As we look to the future, we are called to be a light in our community, making people hungry for the hope and joy found in Christ.

Ultimately, success is not about the size of our congregation or the grandeur of our facilities but about the depth of our spiritual growth and the impact we have on the world. We are called to decrease so that Christ may increase in us, living lives that draw others to Him. Let us be real, authentic, and committed to being the church God has called us to be.

Key Takeaways:

1. Mission Clarity and Commitment: Our mission to develop fully devoted followers of Christ remains unchanged. This involves bringing people into the kingdom, building them up, training them, and sending them out to impact the world. We must be active participants in God's work, not just Sunday Christians. [04:56]

2. Breaking Man-Made Rules: Like Jesus, we are called to break man-made rules that hinder the spread of the gospel. This involves reaching out to those society deems untouchable and expressing God's love to the rejected and broken. [09:54]

3. Believing God for the Impossible: We are called to raise our level of faith and expect God to do the impossible. This involves trusting God for miracles in our lives and the lives of others, knowing that with God, all things are possible. [17:39]

4. Generosity as a Core Value: Our church is committed to being generous, reflecting God's abundant love. This includes giving freely of our time, talents, and resources to ensure that no one is left out due to lack of means. [22:19]

5. Redefining Success: Success is not measured by the size of our congregation or facilities but by the depth of our spiritual growth and the impact we have on the world. We are called to decrease so that Christ may increase in us, living lives that draw others to Him. [32:28]

Youtube Chapters:

- [0:00] - Welcome
- [04:56] - Mission and Halftime Analogy
- [08:34] - Beyond Sunday Christianity
- [09:54] - Breaking Man-Made Rules
- [13:59] - Ordinary People, Extraordinary Impact
- [14:55] - Historical Rule Breakers
- [16:13] - John Wesley's Radical Ministry
- [17:39] - Believing for the Impossible
- [22:19] - Generosity and Community Impact
- [23:14] - Preparing for Growth
- [25:02] - Making Others Hungry for God
- [25:47] - Redefining Success
- [28:02] - Embracing New Tools for Ministry
- [29:19] - God of the Impossible
- [30:23] - Partnering for Revival
- [32:28] - Less of Us, More of Him
- [36:46] - Invitation to Know Jesus

Study Guide

Bible Study Discussion Guide

Bible Reading:
1. Matthew 9:35-38
2. John 5:16-17
3. Mark 10:27

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Observation Questions:

1. What are the four key actions mentioned in the sermon that our church is committed to in order to develop fully devoted followers of Christ? [04:56]

2. How did Jesus respond to the Jewish leaders when they harassed Him for breaking the Sabbath rules? [09:54]

3. What examples from history were given in the sermon to illustrate breaking societal norms for the advancement of God's kingdom? [14:55]

4. According to the sermon, what is the difference between knowing the Bible and living the Bible? [08:34]

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Interpretation Questions:

1. How does the analogy of a halftime locker room talk relate to our mission as a church? What does it suggest about our current stage in fulfilling our mission? [04:56]

2. In what ways does the sermon suggest we should redefine success as a church? How does this differ from traditional measures of success? [25:47]

3. What does the sermon imply about the role of generosity in reflecting God's love? How can this be applied beyond financial giving? [22:19]

4. How does the sermon challenge us to break man-made rules that hinder the spread of the gospel? What are some modern examples of these rules? [09:54]

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Application Questions:

1. Reflect on the mission of our church to develop fully devoted followers of Christ. How can you personally contribute to bringing people into the kingdom and building them up in their faith? [04:56]

2. The sermon encourages us to break man-made rules that hinder the gospel. Are there any traditions or practices in your life that might be limiting your ability to share God's love? How can you address these? [09:54]

3. Consider the concept of radical obedience to God's call. What is one area in your life where you feel God is calling you to step out in faith, and how can you take action this week? [16:13]

4. Generosity is highlighted as a core value. Identify one non-financial way you can be generous with your time or talents this week to reflect God's love in your community. [22:19]

5. The sermon talks about redefining success by the depth of spiritual growth and impact on the world. How can you measure your personal spiritual growth, and what steps can you take to deepen it? [25:47]

6. The sermon mentions the importance of making others hungry for God. What is one practical way you can share your faith with someone in your life this week? [25:02]

7. Reflect on the idea of "less of us, more of Him." What is one specific area in your life where you need to decrease so that Christ can increase? How will you work on this in the coming days? [32:28]

Devotional

Day 1: Living the Mission Beyond Sundays
Our mission to develop fully devoted followers of Christ is not confined to Sundays. It involves actively participating in God's work throughout the week. This mission is about bringing people into the kingdom, building them up through discipleship, training them to discover and use their God-given gifts, and sending them out to impact the world. The analogy of a halftime locker room talk reminds us that we are in the midst of a spiritual game with much left to accomplish. We are called to be more than receivers of God's blessings; we must also be givers, sharing the love and truth of Christ with those around us. [04:56]

"Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that in the Lord your labor is not in vain." (1 Corinthians 15:58, ESV)

Reflection: How can you actively participate in God's work this week beyond attending church services? Identify one specific action you can take today to live out your faith in your community.

Day 2: Breaking Barriers for the Gospel
We are called to break man-made rules that hinder the spread of the gospel, much like Jesus did when He ministered to those society deemed untouchable. This involves reaching out to those who are rejected and broken, expressing God's love to them. Our church is committed to breaking these barriers, believing that God can use us to reach those who are often overlooked. Historical figures like Martin Luther and John Wesley inspire us to step out in faith and trust God to do immeasurably more than we can ask or imagine. [09:54]

"And he said to them, 'Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.'" (Mark 16:15, ESV)

Reflection: Who in your life might be considered "untouchable" or overlooked by society? How can you reach out to them with the love and truth of Christ today?

Day 3: Trusting God for the Impossible
We are called to raise our level of faith and expect God to do the impossible. This involves trusting God for miracles in our lives and the lives of others, knowing that with God, all things are possible. Our faith should not be limited by what we see or understand but should be rooted in the belief that God can do the impossible. This requires a radical obedience to God's call, stepping out in faith even when it seems daunting. [17:39]

"Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us." (Ephesians 3:20, ESV)

Reflection: What is one area in your life where you need to trust God for the impossible? How can you take a step of faith today, believing that God can work miracles in this area?

Day 4: Generosity Reflecting God's Love
Generosity is a core value of our church, reflecting God's abundant love. This includes giving freely of our time, talents, and resources to ensure that no one is left out due to lack of means. Our generosity should extend beyond finances, encompassing every aspect of our lives. As we look to the future, we are called to be a light in our community, making people hungry for the hope and joy found in Christ. [22:19]

"Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." (2 Corinthians 9:7, ESV)

Reflection: In what ways can you practice generosity today, beyond financial giving? Consider how you can use your time and talents to serve others in your community.

Day 5: Redefining Success in Spiritual Growth
Success is not measured by the size of our congregation or facilities but by the depth of our spiritual growth and the impact we have on the world. We are called to decrease so that Christ may increase in us, living lives that draw others to Him. Our focus should be on authentic spiritual growth and transformation, rather than external measures of success. This involves living out our faith in a way that inspires others to seek Christ. [32:28]

"But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you." (Matthew 6:33, ESV)

Reflection: How do you currently measure success in your spiritual life? What changes can you make to focus more on spiritual growth and transformation rather than external achievements?

Quotes

1) "Because when we become just Sunday morning Christians, we become inward focused, and all we do is receive, receive, receive. And if we as believers are only 100 %... sin about receiving only and not giving back out at all there's a word for that do you know what it means to only receive and never give out there's a word for it constipated all right so here's the thing I can't believe he said that in church believe it because here's we're going to dig a little deeper because here's what you need to know if you've ever met someone constipated they're mean they're grouchy they're irritable they're ornery and they're no fun to be around and so here's what I'm telling you today and I mean this with all due respect the greatest revival in the church is when some of the people in the kingdom of God have a good God movement in their life see some of us right now we've been coming to church and taking in and taking in and taking in and taking in and we never give back out into our community and give back through the gospel when we go out into the world and how many of you know Jesus didn't pour into you for you not to go out and to pour into someone else amen that's what we're all about so there's a difference between spiritualism and spiritualism and spiritualism and spiritualism and spiritualism spiritual maturity and simply knowing the Bible see the thing is is God's not asking you to quote the Bible as much as he's wanting you to live the Bible he wants you to get into your spirit the Bible says I hide his word in my heart that I might not sin against God and so the more the word gets in us the more it churns up like a fire and it wants to explode out of us because knowing the Bible versus living the Bible again is two different things that's what makes the difference in you and I as believers that's what helps us to love a world that needs loving and to serve them and to tell them about the truth it's what keeps us from getting ostracized and only fellowshipping among ourselves because when it becomes all about us we become judgmental see I think sometimes we forget where we've come from I remember what it was like before I was saved I remember what it was like before I knew the Lord and I didn't like me I didn't like who I was before I knew Christ but once I got saved Now I can remember who I was before, but when I forget who I was before, I can be judgmental of those who are still there. When you and I forget what it was like to be lost, when we forget what it was like before Christ, we can start to judge those who don't know Christ, and we forget that that's who we used to be. So at Balo, we're told and we're reminded, like a mama bird that kicks her little birdies out of the nest and says, go do something, spread your wings, fly, and as your pastor, that's what I want to do today. I want to challenge you, spread your wings. Let's go out here from the north, south, east, and west. Let's spread our wings and fly as far as we can go, spreading the good news of the gospel so that people can come to know him. Because our mission is to go out and impact the world in which we live. But we can't wait for them to come to us. See, I think that's where the church makes their mistake, the big church overall." [08:34] (178 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

2) "We build buildings and we invite people to come. And we tell people, join us on Sunday. But how many of you know, Jesus didn't wait for people to join him. He went and found them. It says that Jesus traveled. Well, where are you going to travel this week? To work? To school? You're going to travel to your home? You're going to go places this week where you're going to be around people who don't know Jesus and let your light shine before men. And let the world change because of what the world sees in you and I. So as we pick back up with our message, I asked myself a question this last week. How has our area, how has our community changed because our church exists? Has our community changed? Because see, the thing is, if our community is no different 16 years later from us having become a church, then what good are we to the kingdom of God? And what made me think of that was I had a pastor friend of mine who used to pastor at another church here in town, but they don't live here anymore. But they've been gone for about a year. And we were good friends and they called me back and said, Dear, Derek, I was praying for you this morning, and I just want to encourage you. Derek, I want you to know I was born and raised in Enterprise and in the Wiregrass area. I'm in my 40s. I lived there all of my life until I just recently moved last year. And I want to encourage you that Enterprise, Alabama is a different city because High Point Church exists. Well, here's the thing. That's our dream. Not because of me, not because of this building, but because of us. That when we get a hold of who Jesus truly is and he truly transforms our life and we go out there as light into a darkened world and we let our light shine before men, people are going to want what you and I have. So I believe, yes, we've made a difference, but we've still got more to do. So let me give you some specific things that I came up with 16 years ago of rules to help keep us in line. Because how many of you know when you have rules, you know what your parameters are? So I set three rules for us as a church that I believe are going to help us keep us on mission and on focus as to what God's called us to be. So here's rule number one if you want to write it down. We're going to break the rules." [09:54] (124 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

3) "We're going to break the rules. And I'm not talking about that we're going to go out and be thugs for Jesus and break all the laws and all that kind of stuff. I'm not talking about that. I'm not talking about going and going 90 miles an hour through a school zone. I'm talking about the laws that men and women have added to the kingdom of God that Jesus said, I didn't say that. Because how many of you know we can add a lot of our traditions and a lot of our doings to the kingdom of God and a lot of our doings to the kingdom of God. lot of rules and regulations that we put on the body of Christ and Jesus said who told you that because I didn't say that so we're going to break all the rules that traditional churches have put on the kingdom of God that have stopped us from moving and shaking the world in which we live so those man -made traditions Jesus's day had one it's called the sabbath the sabbath is real it was supposed to be a day of rest but the thing is is it the the religious people of that day didn't truly understand the sabbath and one day jesus was traveling along and he came upon a person that need healing and what did he do he healed them well it upset the religious people and they were so angry because they misinterpreted what the sabbath was all about their interpretation was that you did nothing you couldn't do anything you couldn't heal nobody you couldn't bless anybody but how could you be jesus how can you be a christian and you pass by someone who has a need that you have the ability to meet and you say i can't meet your need today because it's the sabbath but i'll see you tomorrow when they have the need today and so jesus met the need it caused an uproar in the body of that time and he said i'm not about those man -made rules and those man -made rules need to be broken here's what he said in john 5 16 so the jewish leaders began harassing jesus for breaking the sabbath rules but jesus replied my father is always working and so am i i don't take a day off and so here's the thing is i believe that there are certain rules that need to be broken what other rules did jesus break that you weren't supposed to touch lepers but what did he do he didn't just touch him he healed him he broke all the rules what you one of the other rules was what you weren't supposed to be around prostitutes and what did jesus do he got around prostitutes and ministered to them and loved on them and cared for them and their lives were transformed jesus expressed god's love to people that others were would have stayed away from or avoided jesus expressed the love of god to people that others would have quickly dismissed and overlooked the loner the rejected the broken the hurting and that's who he was all about so he who did jesus chooses his followers think about it he had to choose some people that were going to be his followers so that when he went back to heaven he was going to leave the kingdom of god in their hands he didn't choose one pharisee he didn't choose one scribe he didn't choose one religious person i don't know who he chose he didn't choose one religious person i don't know the whole bunch do you know who he chose ordinary Common, everyday people like tax collectors and fishermen. Men like you and I. And the word says that they were ordinary, unschooled men. And if you look up in the Greek, I love doing that. Do you know what the word ordinary here means? It's a word, and I mean no disrespect. I'm just telling you what the Greek word for ordinary here is, idiotus. And if you guessed it, that's where we get our word idiot. So what am I telling you? Join us, because any idiot can change the world, and you'll just let Jesus have your heart. And so I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but if God can use this idiot, he can use you too. And don't amen that one. You're going to hurt my feelings." [13:59] (60 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

4) "But if God can use me, he can use you too. How many of you know some people that need their hearts changed by Jesus? Then what are we doing about it? We've got to get out there and make a difference, and not just pray for God to change their heart. Get out there and let their light shine. Shine. Let our light shine.

Because the world knows when you've been with Jesus or not. They may not know if you've been to church on Sunday. But they're going to know by how you lived on Monday. See, the thing is, you can come to church today and not have an encounter with God. And you wasted your time. But I'm here today to tell you, when you come to church, I want you to leave here knowing that you've been in his presence, and his presence has changed your life, and you had an encounter with the almighty living God. So that when I go out into the world tomorrow, that they know that he has transformed my life. Because Jesus wasn't afraid to break the rules. Do you know who else broke the rules? Martin Luther. If you don't know who Martin Luther was, he was an early religious leader that believed that every person should have access to the word of God. But in the end," [14:55] (54 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

5) "Martin Luther's day, church people weren't allowed to have a Bible. Only the priests were because they said, we couldn't handle it. And Martin Luther said, that's ludicrous. That's crazy. The word of God needs to be had by all. Well, Gutenberg in Germany at that time created what was called the Gutenberg Press. So Martin Luther translated the word of God into German, had the Gutenberg Press create copies, print copies of the Bible. And he put copies of the word of God in the hands of all the believers and the religious leaders screamed heresy. But the reason you and I can have a Bible today is because somebody was willing to break the rules. Another person that broke the rules was John Wesley. John Wesley was an early religious leader that was not allowed to preach the gospel in the Church of England. Why? They said, because you're too fanatical." [16:13] (50 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

6) "You're too wild for us. So in the 1700s, it was heresy. It was forbidden to preach the gospel outside the four walls of a church. If you wanted to talk about God and you wanted to preach the gospel, you had to do it in a church building. Well, John Wesley went around and he knocked on every church in the area and said, can I preach here? No, you're too wild. You're too fanatical. Can I preach here? No, you're too wild. You're too fanatical. So he got in his frustration. He went out to where his father was buried, stood upon his grave and shouted out the gospel that you must be born again. And he said, the world is my parish. The world is my church. And he changed the church world in history. And from that moment, John Wesley and George Whitefield took the message outside the walls of the church for the first time in centuries. Listen to this. I thought I'd got, when I looked it up, I thought maybe I miscalculated this. By horseback, John Wesley traveled the church world, traveled in his area. And he traveled over 250 ,000 miles. And his lifetime on horseback to preach the gospel. He preached over 40 ,000 sermons and over 150 ,000 people came to know Jesus because of John Wesley. And that couldn't have happened in just one building. But listen to what. said at 80 years old at 80 years old he said I'm going to have to cut back to preaching only two sermons a day from preaching three to have that kind of passion as a church we're going to have to break some rules we're called to be bold we're called to be radical radically obedient to think that God could use a group of people like you and I to go out into this world tomorrow and through the rest of the week and let our light shine again and that the world is drawn to the savior that we serve because of what they've seen in you and me so we're going to break some rules rule number two we're going to believe God for the impossible we're going to raise our level of faith and expect expectancy I mean how boring would it be to come to church every single week and do the same old same old every single day I wouldn't want to do that I'm like he's going to preach the same message he did last week it's gonna be the same old songs as last week they're going to do the same old stuff so no I ain't about that and so I'm not going to do the same old stuff going to go do that but I am thankful that we're not that church because when we started 16 years ago I said I am tired of being bored at church let's spice some things up amen so one thing I want you to do is I want you to hear the word of God be changed by the word of God but I don't want you to fall asleep in the middle of church while I'm preaching the word of God so I want to keep it lively I want to keep it spiced up to where you walk out of here excited about the kingdom of God because without miracles and impossibilities we limit God with our lack of faith because High Point Church is his church and over the last 16 years we've seen marriages restored we've seen physical healings take place we've been seen addicts set free we've seen people's finances be miraculously turned around because we're trusting God for the impossible financial impossibility spiritual impossibility we're trusting God for miracles and how do we do that by exercising our faith God gave you your faith to get out there and use" [17:39] (60 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

7) "it and how we do it is sometimes we do it in very very small ways we exercise our faith by being generous we give as much as we can away as a church for free little things like the coffee when you came in we didn't charge you for that if somebody did go get your money back because it was it was supposed to be free somebody took advantage of you so we give away free coffee on Sunday morning sometimes I wonder do people drink it or just pour it out or kick it because it's all over the floor but we give away free coffee when you go in the bathroom have you noticed that it's not just an ordinary bathroom you go in there and we've got like breath mints we've got tooth flossers toothbrushes we've got deodorant we got smell good stuff all that in there and the hand soap how many of you know we don't have just regular hand soap you know how I love what we do is when you see people walking out of the bathroom just the bathroom at church and they're going and they're smelling their hands so that's just a little word of warning for you if you see somebody walk out of our bathrooms and they're not going don't shake the hand just give them a fist bump because they didn't wash them because you can't wash your hands with that stuff and not want to sniff them when you're walking out are you good good to see you this morning so little things we give away free toiletries and stuff like that we always want to make sure that whenever we've got something going on with our youth and our children we never want one youth or one child to not be able to participate in an event because of finances but that means that we got to be generous in our finances so that we can say yes so that doesn't mean that they go out and get to blow their money on video games or whatever they want to and then we're going to fill in the gap but it means when they're going to be able to participate in an event we're going to do everything we can to meet those needs that's why we give to missions like convoy of hope that's why we do things like serve day that's why in the spring we're going to do things like week of generosity we're going to go out because again do you realize the world thinks we're always going to be about wanting to get something from them see they think the church has always got their hand out but when we walk out into our world and we offer them something and ask for nothing it catches them off guard because the world needs to see that God is real in our lives. So I want to ask you a question. How many of you think that High Point Church should be a very generous church? Let me see your hands. Lift your hands. If you think High Point Church should be a generous church, all right, now you can put them down. Not a trick question. Then how do you think we do that? Because you can't pass. We don't have a Gutenberg Press in the back corner that we're printing out dollar bills. We'd get arrested. Ministry would be halted. So what do we do? You can't raise your hand and say, I believe in High Point Church. I believe we should be a generous church and then walk by that bucket every single week and not do one single thing. You got to do your part. This is not a fundraiser. God doesn't need our funds, but he does need our heart. But the thing is, we can't vote to be a generous church if we don't make it possible to be a generous church through our generous giving. Because we don't stockpile this stuff. We meet needs. We do ministry." [22:19] (167 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

8) "And we do all this. We do all this as we trust God for the impossible finances. We're believing God this next year for huge financial miracles, for faith jumps and faith leaps, to see more families saved and turned around than ever before. Because guess what? This is a holiday weekend. Most people are off tomorrow and second service was jam -packed.

This service is pretty packed for a third service on a holiday weekend. So I don't believe that God gave us 76 acres of land for us just to stare at. I don't believe that God gave us 76 acres of land for us just to stare at. I don't believe that God gave us 76 acres of land for us just to stare at. Buildings serve people. People don't serve buildings. We don't have to build fancy. But I believe that what God wants to do. How many of you got somebody in your family or friend that needs Jesus? That's not a trick question, I promise. All right. Then where are we going to put them if God answers every one of our prayers? So I believe that the Lord added to the church daily as many as were being saved. And we talked about it last week. Not because so -and -so left this church and came to this church." [23:14] (38 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

9) "And if we're believing for a harvest, if the harvest is plentiful, but the laborers are few, and we get out there and do the laboring work, and we reach people for Jesus, and we bring them in, we've got to have a place to put them. And I believe that we've got to start looking forward in faith for our future. You said you have some friends and family that need Jesus. I want to ask you a question that I've asked my kids their whole life. How do you make someone hungry? You can answer. Eat in front of them. You don't believe me? Next time, gentlemen, your wife says she's not hungry, go buy McDonald's. Get you a big, large, hot fry and see how quick her nubby little fingers go down in that bag and shove them towards her face. And all of a sudden, that woman was, I'm not hungry. She done ate half your fries. Why? Because you ordered something that ignited her hunger and made her want something she didn't previously want before. Do you want to know why I think we're not seeing revival in the church? Because there's not enough people eating and making people hungry in front of a lost and dying world. The Bible says, oh, taste and see that the Lord is good. And so I'm asking you this next week, to eat from the table of the Lord. Let the Lord change your heart. Get into His Word. Let the love of God exude from your body and you will begin to make people hungry for what you have. But they will not be hungry. They will not be hungry from a table that you are not eating from. Can I get an amen on that? That's good stuff right there. You need to write that down. So there's some rules that we need to break." [25:02] (97 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

10) "We're going to break some rules. We're going to radically love people. We're going to believe God for the impossible. And the third thing we're going to do, we're going to redefine success. We're going to redefine what success is because here's the thing, we don't gauge our success by the size of our church. We don't gauge our success by the size of our church. We don't gauge the success of our church because we're better than everybody else or so we think we are. If we get that way, the Bible says pride goes before the fall. And as soon as we start taking pride and who we think we are, we're headed for a fall. But I want to redefine success. And you know what success is? Lives being changed. We're not in competition with other churches in our town. I know most of the pastors in this town and I love them. And I have a relationship with some of those pastors." [25:47] (46 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)

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