Navigating the Church-State Relationship: A Biblical Perspective

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The church is obviously something ordained by God but here we are told that the powers that be are also ordained of God so here you see is something at once that makes us feel there must be a relationship the state and the church are ordained by God, they have that in common. [00:06:11]

As Christians, we are members of the church, but as people, as individuals, we are citizens of various Earthly States and kingdoms so that we are bound to face it in that way you can't dissociate yourself from the state in which you live, you've got to pay taxes you have to conform to laws. [00:06:43]

The Lord Jesus Christ is the head of the church but not only is he the head of the church he is the head of all things in the whole universe at the same time. I read that fifth chapter of the Book of Revelation at the beginning because it gives us an indication of that he is the Lord of history. [00:07:42]

The first view is the one that holds that the church and the state are one. The second is that which holds that the church and the state are essentially different. It really can be boiled down to that. There are some particular views which are very difficult to classify and to place. [00:14:11]

The Roman Catholic teaching is that the state is subservient to the church. That has been always the Roman Catholic teaching. The church and state are one, yes, but which is the controlling power? Well, the Roman Catholic Church said it is the church that controls the state. [00:14:11]

Erastianism is the teaching which says that the church is subservient to the state, unlike the Roman Catholic which says that the church dominates the state. This is the exact opposite, that the church is a branch of the state if you like, a servant of the state, an aspect of the state. [00:23:39]

The Lutheran Church generally speaking has become erastian. It is the state Church in places like Denmark and Norway and Sweden and Finland and various other countries and is therefore very closely akin to what we have in this country. [00:31:09]

The Queen's Majesty has the chief power in this realm of England and her other dominions unto whom the chief government of all Estates of this realm whether they be ecclesiastical or civil in all causes death appertain they the princes should rule all states and degrees committed to their charge by God. [00:39:03]

The state has the power to appoint Bishops but has not got power to consecrate them and that of course is what is still more or less the rule and in vogue. It is the state The Sovereign through the government of the day that decides who's to be made a bishop. [00:39:03]

We see oh Lord how involved we become in the world and its Affairs and how we allow these things even to influence our thinking about spiritual matters. Oh Lord history has humbled us in thy holy sight and we realize that we are failable as all who have gone before us. [00:44:03]

We pray thee therefore oh God to keep us humble un thine allmighty hand to give us Grace to be patient with one another and with these varying ideas but above all oh God we pray thee to grant us that Enlightenment which will enable us to understand understand the teaching of Thy word. [00:44:03]

Oh God give us we pray thee a concern about these things not merely with our minds but a concern for thy glory and thy praise Lord look upon us keep thy Mighty hand upon us and lead us on in these days of momentous decisions in this turning point of history. [00:44:03]

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