Leading with Love: Embracing Stories in Ministry

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Serving alongside people who don't like you I think we almost cut or don't have the best interests of the ministry in mind. Go ahead Jada well release to speak the filtered version no first of all now I said my husband says he knows when it's not about to go well when I started numbering my points first of all yes. [00:33:29]

So sermon is serving alongside people that you don't like hmm I'm gonna deal with that a little separately okay then the ministry issue because sometimes the two are not combined okay sometimes it's just a person that you don't connect with because you don't connect with everybody because and especially the larger your ministry grows the smaller the amount of people that you actually connect with you know yeah. [00:34:00]

And that just means that you like them and you're not less godly and less christ-like if you don't like everybody there are people that you'll have to serve with it you don't want to have lunch with like I just want to have a meeting at the conference table at church I don't I don't I don't want to bring you into my social time on my family time because this is either not a healthy relationship or for whatever reason there's not an affinity there. [00:34:36]

And so I have some thoughts about how to really interact with those people because as a pastor's wife I think what has been my biggest challenge is I don't you don't get the privilege or the benefit of just writing them off when you're when you're in the church you can just decide who you're gonna associate with but very often the Lord will bring people that you don't really get along with yeah and they're the ones that need something from ya. [00:35:04]

And you can't say you know I don't really like you can you go talk to you just have you kick well you can but you should you're right you're right you can and so I have really been challenged in our in our time in ministry to to really lead them with love and and you know it's the same thing I think with people even in your own in your blood family there's people that are connected to you yeah that you really have some sense of responsibility for obligation for but you might not like everyone in your family. [00:35:44]

And so I try to see them if it's just an affinity issue we may not get along together and you may not be my girlfriend then I try to see it as you're in my family and so I'm still called to lead you would love you uh-huh and so I do that really by first listening and then that means I have to sometimes force myself to spend a little bit of time with people that I that I don't particularly have an affinity for you know and so because one thing the Lord has shown me many many times is when you know someone's story yeah it changes everything. [00:36:25]

Wow that's good and so the person that you like the least when you start to know their testimony things they've walked through it changes everything I have met people and and I remember a young lady in particular early in the in our church planting years and we were in the hotel setting up and tearing down and all that good stuff and she just she just rubbed me wrong all the time and I would go sit in my car like is it me is it what is it and finally one day I said you know what I need to I need to hang out with her and go to lunch. [00:36:54]

And it was you're talking about praying before the lunch it wasn't it wasn't me and so I we had this lunch and let me tell you by the time I learned her story mm-hmm that she had never had a mother who ever told her she loved her that she had a mother who lived a lifestyle where she wanted much raised herself in the age of six that she raised her siblings I mean all of these things yeah I was like oh you're doing well just just to be you know you just kind of have an attitude you know but you should be certified insane somewhere you know you should be dealing with serious mental disorder. [00:37:54]

And she just you know she had a little rough edges but I'm telling you once I got to know her story yeah I changed this week me and the Lord has really reminded me he said Jada I don't see everyone's face I don't see what you see I see their story and then to be able to love people like you know their story yes and so they're tweeting about oh the way man because sometimes I meet a stranger and I don't have the time to have lunch and get to know you and if I don't connect with you or something rubs me wrong hmm I have to say to myself if you found out their whole story Wow you you would treat them differently. [00:38:44]

So now in maturity and with grace treat him like you already know their story treat them like you already know their Testament even if you don't know what it is everybody has something you know that would that would pull on your heartstrings you know and so that listening time and listening to them if you can or listening to the Lord because he'll give you insight they'll say this person may not be likable or this person may always have an attitude or this person may seem this way but let me tell you what you don't see ya let me tell you what they're working really hard to cover Wow. [00:39:20]

And then as as a pastoral figure cuz even though we're women we didn't have a pastoring role then you get to love them and I'm gonna tell you watching the walls break down Wow from love yes you know rather than then separation is just one of the greatest joys themselves that's really listening to them and and asking God Lord give me the discernment and wisdom and love ya so I can treat them like I know there's no wrong no in the story yes I like that now on the flip side that is the good that's the good way yes ma'am and on the flip side though that there has also been some times where we've had to go before the Lord. [00:39:59]

And then you get into now not just worth whether you get along with the person but their heart for the ministry what their spirit is and it's a really good book and I think it's called a house divided or unity and I need to find the name of the books I can tell you but okay this man deals with the three primary spirits that come up in your church okay the core was spirit mm-hmm which is the energetic person but they like divisive 'no suisse it in the Book of Numbers the Absalon spirit which is the complaining they always go against Authority in a Jezebel spirit which is not just sexual just the domineering controlling of men belittling of men once the relationships with men even if it's not overtly sexual. [00:40:52]

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