Jesus as God: A Survey of Church History with W. Robert Godfrey

Aug 01, 2026

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Athanasius was not standing up for a rational principle. He was not using a technical theology to establish the reign of rationality. He was standing up for the Bible. He was standing up for the fullness of what the Bible said about God and about Jesus, and that's why this Nicaean orthodoxy has really stood the test of time, and has served the church so well. [00:22:31]

But one thing we have to hold on to is that the essential Trinitarian teaching is Biblically clear and simple. That's not to say there aren't lots of things to explore, and lots of ways in which we need to deepen our understanding of the Trinity, but when we speak of the Trinity we say, "There is one God." We do not compromise it. That's what the Bible teaches, that's what we believe, there is one God; there is only one God. [00:19:16]

Also we find clearly stated in the New Testament, the Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Spirit, and the Spirit is not the Father, so very clearly we have in the Bible all of the critical working pieces of the doctrine of the Trinity -- One God, three Persons who are all divine, and the Persons are distinct from one another, but still one God. [00:20:03]

Arius and defenders said, "Well you can't impose that word on us, that's not a Biblical word, we're just being Biblical." You always have to worry about people who resist theological technical terms in the name of being Biblical, and at least examine whether they're not trying to hide something. [00:08:45]

At this council then, there was this discussion, "Well, how can we express the fact that the Father and the Son are both divine, but are distinct?" And they came up with a word, homoousion in Greek, which is translated "same substance" in English. The Father and the Son share the same divine substance, they are homo, which is the Greek word for same, ousion, which is the Greek word for being or substance or essence. They are the same substance. [00:07:47]

Another idea is that there are really two or more Gods. That the Father is God and the Son is God, but they're different Gods. That's kind of what the Mormons teach. But that of course runs against the whole Jewish tradition that Christianity had inherited that there is one God. If there's anything you learn from the Old Testament, it's that there is one and only one God. So, if there is only one God, the option that the Father and the Son are different Gods doesn't really work. [00:05:59]

In fact, you know when you pause and think about it, most of things we say about God really boil down to saying, "He's not like us. We're finite," it means we're limited in time and space, and we say, "God is infinite." Do you really understand infinity? If you do, come and talk to me after, because I don't. What infinite really is is not finite. [00:20:54]

Everybody should just get along. The problem is, for everybody to get back together, Athanasius, now bishop of Alexandria, has to lift the ban of excommunication against Arius. And guess what? He refuses to do it. And guess what? He's exiled and deposed by the emperor, and a new bishop is put in his place who'll do what the emperor tells him to do. [00:14:06]

Now when you think about it, there are a limited number of options as to how to understand the relationship of the Father to the Son. The one that Arius was promoting really was that the Father created the Son. So the Father is God, and the Son is a creature. [00:05:14]

But as we look at the Bible, we have many verses that say very clearly, "The Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God." Those statements are clear in the New Testament. [00:19:49]

There was another option advanced by some in the early part of the church called modalism, and modalism says that there's just one God, and Father and Son are just different names for the one God. So when Jesus is on earth, He's the Son, that's His title, but His person is really the person of the Father, because there's only one God. [00:06:37]

Now I understand that R.C. did a series called The Mystery of the Trinity, and the Trinity as a doctrine can be difficult, can't it? It's sometimes a difficult doctrine to explain to people, and we've seen that in some of the critique of Islam against Christianity, "Well you claim to believe in one God, but you really have three Gods," and it's hard to explain to outsiders, sometimes hard to really grasp as insiders the doctrine of the Trinity. [00:18:47]

Athanasius, a man of great courage, of great faithfulness, and of great insight into theological truth, and Athanasius would later become bishop of Alexandria, and become the key defender of orthodoxy, and he would actually be exiled five different times, thrown out of his church, and then called back, always defending the truth. [00:04:18]

What did happen then was that orthodoxy began to establish itself, and finally a new emperor, Theodosius, in 381 calls a follow-up ecumenical council, the second ecumenical council at Constantinople, and it reiterates, it reiterates what Nicaea had said about orthodoxy. And this then really is the final moment of the victory of Trinitarian orthodoxy. [00:17:48]

And Julian decided the very best way to ruin Christianity was to just let all the different Christian groups fight with one another as openly as possible, and Julian was in some ways kind of clever about that. [00:16:20]

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