Pursuing the Holy Spirit: Baptism, Tongues, and Presence

Jan 25, 2026

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It says, follow the way of love. I do not find it to be a coincidence by the Holy Spirit that you have 1 Corinthians 12, 1 Corinthians 14, which a lot of us love to look at, and 1 Corinthians 13 is right in between, and it's all about love. Many times 12 and 14 are talked about, but 12 and 14 are the bread of the sandwich. 1 Corinthians 13 is the meat. If you're making a sandwich, you want to have the meat, and there are too many people that focus on 12 and 14, and they're harsh, and they're hurtful, and they've missed the most important part of it all, which is love. [00:24:48]

And it's an outward expression of what God does inwardly in our life. But I actually think it's even more than that. Something symbolic, yes. But also like the old you is going under the water. And just like the Egyptians chasing the Israelites and God closed the Red Sea. It's kind of like the old you goes under. And the new you comes up. [00:12:10]

But, I also know a lot of people that pray in tongues, and they tithe, that are the meanest people I've ever met in the entire earth. They're harsh. Why? Because they forgot. It's not like a badge I wear. It's a posture. It's just, I just want to hear God. I want to obey him. So why am I doing that? I'm building myself up. I want to hear. And then I have to obey. I have to respond. [00:34:34]

How do you remove them? You unseat them. What does that mean? If you ever had someone in a floaty before that's on the water, and you get up underneath them. Anyone ever done this before? And then they're off. That's how you unseat them. By lifting up the name of Jesus. And having people. So let's just say there's a religious spirit. A religious spirit based on the sins of the people. What is that? It focuses on rules over relationship. Busyness over intimacy. Positions over spiritual authority. So what do you do? You raise up spirit-filled people. And it unseats his power. [00:04:49]

I'm praying for an increase in spiritual authority. As I said, like titles. Yeah, titles and there's order and all that kind of stuff. But if you go into a place where you are binding up things, they're not like, what's your title? Oh, you're the lead pastor of Connection Point? You know, it's like, well, who are you? You know that story? Like, I know Paul and I know Jesus, but who are you? Like, you know, like, I don't know you. Why? Because you don't have intimacy. Authority is built in intimacy. I'm just praying for more authority. [00:05:38]

Question, what signs accompany those who believe? What does it say? It says they'll have divine power. Why? Because they're going to cast out devils. They're going to have divine communication. What? They're going to speak in tongues. There's going to be divine protection. Snakes and poison will not hurt them. There's going to be divine healing. They're going to lay their hands on sick and they will get well. [00:09:12]

The first baptism is that the Holy Spirit baptizes people into Jesus or into the body of Christ. The word baptism, full immersion, baptizo. And so what it means is that the Holy Spirit who draws all men unto him, he takes and he baptizes people into the body of Christ. He has a major role to play when someone gives their life to Jesus. So the Bible says Holy Spirit draws all men unto him. [00:10:45]

So it doesn't do any good for him just to have a moment of tongues, unless I bring some revelation or understanding or prophecy or word of instruction. Can I tell you, there are so many times I don't know what to pray, I don't know where to go, and as I spend some time just singing in the spirit or praying in the spirit or setting up the tone, then God brings revelation. I know exactly what to respond altar-wise. I know exactly where to go. [00:32:15]

If we just get around here, and all we do is just pray in tongues loud, even go read 1 Corinthians. People are going to think you are a nut job. But if you take a moment, I also, on the other side of the coin, believe that people need to hear it. And why? So again, it doesn't build anyone up. I'm just building myself up. But the atmosphere, something shifts in the room, and then we get revelation and understanding and prophetic prophecy and all these things that actually now leads to exactly where God wanted to go. [00:32:46]

Can I tell you, when it comes to tongues, the goal is not to speak in tongues. The goal is to hear God clearly, to obey him, walk in his power. However, the goal is to know him intimately. [00:33:19]

The third baptism is the baptism in the Holy Spirit. And Jesus baptizes us into the Holy Spirit. So we call baptism in the Holy Spirit. Many people say it different ways. Some say baptism of the Holy Spirit. I just learned this a long time ago. And so it's always been in the Holy Spirit for me. Because it helps me understand that Jesus is the one doing the baptizing in the Holy Spirit. [00:12:48]

Now let's look at the other lane. The other lane is the personal tongue. This is when I say I pray in the Spirit. I said, hey, last week I went upstairs at 3 a.m. on Thursday, and I literally prayed in the Spirit for five hours. What am I saying? I'm actually praying in my prayer language. I'm praying in tongues. I believe this gift is for everybody. Everyone can have this gift. [00:23:54]

Lord, let us not get stuck into religion. Let us not focus on rules. Let us not focus on legalism. No, God, we want intimacy. We want Holy Spirit. [00:57:15]

I actually think it's the wrong question. The right question is how do I get him to show up? What do I need to do, Lord, so that you show up in this place? And let me tell you, when God shows up, places grow because he draws people to him. They're drawn to his presence. [00:02:57]

And I'm just praying for unity, unity in this house. Psalms 133, the oil drips from the head, and it talks about being united. United, and the devil loves division. God loves unity. And I wonder how many times churches, through division, have missed out on the outpouring of the Holy Spirit because they're all over the place. [00:06:50]

What are you doing when you're praying in the spirit? The spirit is literally praying through you and he's praying exactly what he wants to pray. You're praying a perfect prayer, praying exactly what's on his heart. [00:29:27]

I just want to, like, fear of the Lord is, God, I care so much what you think. I care so much that you show up. I don't care if it makes someone mad. I don't care if it changes my world. I don't care if my schedule gets changed. Because that is what the Holy Spirit is telling me. [00:55:56]

And I feel like maybe for many people, yes, you made the greatest decision by giving your life to Jesus. But you're treading and going through, struggling over and over, trying to get this. And God has more. He has more. He wants to give you power, divine power, divine communication, divine protection, divine healing. [00:15:39]

But I do want to, I say that because so many people, they don't receive it one time. And they walk out and the devil beats them up. That they're some less of a Christian. That they don't have the Holy Spirit living inside them at all. That, and I just want to, like, something you said. I just want all of you, just keep going after him. And keep pressing it. Follow the way of love. Eagerly desire. Keep going. God, you're a good God. I want this gift. I want this gift because I want all of you. And sometimes in that whole process, there's some character development. There's some things that happen that are just game changer that it's like, that's why I didn't give it to you right away. I needed some, you to come after me some, you know. [00:41:07]

I want to take a little bit of time to teach us on kind of a controversial topic that I think many people are, they do not understand. And that is tongues. Anyone ever heard of the word like tongues? You know, like speaking in tongues, praying in tongues. I want you to think of it as two lanes, okay? [00:18:04]

I don't understand it, but I know in the spirit something's happening. Other passages of scripture actually talk about, hey, well, as you're praying, ask the Lord, what's happening? What are you praying for? I can't tell you how many times that I have been praying in the spirit, and again, revelation, understanding, I know where to go. I can't tell you how many times I've been praying in the spirit, and it's like, I know, this is warfare right now. Hey, this is worship right now to the Lord. He just wants me to love on him. Oh my goodness, I can't believe John just pops in my mind right now as I'm praying in the spirit. I believe I'm praying for him. I don't know what he's going through or what to pray for him, but I know as I'm praying in the spirit, I'm praying something that needs to be prayed for him. [00:45:48]

I think too often we walk in fear of man. We don't understand fear of Lord. Fear of the Lord is in I'm scared of him. Fear of the Lord is I just want to do anything for he to show up. I'm fearful that he doesn't show up. [00:55:14]

So this would be a tongue in a public setting like this, where someone feels like the Holy Spirit has come upon them, and they need to deliver this word to the people, but it doesn't benefit anybody because it's not done in the language that we understand. And so there has to be an interpreter, someone, why? So that the body can be built up, so then someone else who has, you know, they just, oh my goodness, I understand what they're saying. This thing rises up in my heart, and I need to share it to the body. And this is done really for a couple of things. I feel like one of the reasons is sometimes God wants to send out an SOS. God wants to send out, hey, there's something I just need to get across to the body. Or someone sitting in service, and they need to hear something. I've seen this before. We're going somewhere in the message and all of this, but someone literally is about to end their life if they go home. It's nowhere in how we're going, and so God just has, hey, I put it upon someone else. Someone interprets, and it's just, hey, like God loves you so much. God loves you so much. Keep going. And that person, the Holy Spirit, speaks to them, and it was like an SOS. [00:22:16]

I felt like God gave me a way to explain. So if you think of a language that nobody knows, and all of a sudden it comes on someone, the lane for the public. What's it like? Let's just, I don't know if anyone knows Russian. Let's just, I don't know if anyone knows Russian. Say it's Russian. Like, if you don't know it, you don't understand it. It's just these words. It's like, and remember language is really, it's sounds that we've all agreed upon and symbols. That's it. So we, I don't know those sounds and symbols, and it makes absolutely no sense. But God comes upon someone in a public setting, and they're speaking that language. And then someone understands what's happening, and he interprets, and he gets the word across. [00:45:01]

Can I tell you the personal tongue benefits who? What we learn, it benefits the individual. The personal tongue does not require an interpreter or interpretation to be beneficial to the individual. [00:30:57]

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