Grace, Truth, and the Power of Presence

I want to share with you a story. You may not know this, but before I was married, before I even met Tamara, I just graduated from college and I was a math teacher, believe it or not, and got my first job in Nyssa, Oregon. Some of you might know where that's at. And then, but I was still single and so I was kind of, you know, thinking this is my time to do some adventure. So I applied for jobs teaching overseas and I got a job in Indonesia at a small international school in Indonesia teaching math and computers and coaching basketball. So I flew over there. [00:00:00]

And over a year for those two years I was there by myself. And then when we went back as a family to Indonesia, we didn't live in the same town, but every time we'd visit, we would come and visit. And share tea and snacks and again, language is getting a little better, but it was still difficult to communicate, but we did the best we could. And over years and years, just spending that time together, little by little, getting more comfortable with each other and learning to communicate and all those things. [00:01:40]

And then she invited me into the house. And people are gathering, hundreds and hundreds of people. I mean, there's chairs out in front of the house. There's chairs in the street. The streets are blocked off. And there's hundreds of people outside the home. But she says, no, you're coming inside. So she took me into the inner room, into the small room where all the family was. And the prayer started. And the loud speakers were blaring. And the imam was doing his prayer thing. And there was music. And everyone in the room's got their little prayer book in Arabic. And they gave me one. I couldn't read it. [00:03:03]

And I learned something that, that when you develop presence with people when life is good, when life is easy, when it's smooth sailing. Then when the waves get rough and life starts to fall apart, you already have a voice in their life. And they will often invite you to come in and be a part of that time. But you got to do all the work ahead of time first. [00:04:31]

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And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

And they're hoping to catch Jesus in a kind of a catch -22 where he has no escape. And they're hoping to get him in a situation where he has to break a law. He either needs to break the law of Moses by saying, no, don't execute her, or she has to break the law of Rome, which didn't allow the Jews to carry out executions. So if he answers, execute her, he's following the law of Moses, but breaking the law of Rome. If he says, don't execute her, he's following the law of Rome, but not the law of Moses. [00:07:01]

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