1. "And what I've realized, something about me at that age is about more than me at that age. It's everything that I despise about myself, even today. The worst of me personified as this younger me. And so my words were anger and contempt and embarrassment. And I say a lot. And it's quiet. And the counselor says, okay. Then he asks a question that's changing me. He said, what if Jesus was here? Risen Jesus. Scars in his arms. Jesus our Savior and his resurrected body. If he were in the room, if he were to speak to you then, what would he say?"
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2. "And here's what's happening. Jesus' presence. His voice. His presence was being introduced, was being brought into a part of my life that I did not know that I'd kept him out of. Places of shame, places empty of grace that really needed his voice. And so what if he's in the room right now, this moment, as I tried to hear him and as I tried to think about him and give an answer for what he would say, I was confronted with what do I really believe about him? Who is he to me? Does he share my contempt? Would he call me a fool?"
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3. "It's a powerful thing. I imagine, here's what I'm imagining. I'm imagining that if he did show up. Listen, Jesus is in the room. And he spoke. I imagine whatever he said would matter to you, especially in moments like these. Maybe like me, you could imagine these seasons of regret, like these seasons of major failure of life. And you can consider Jesus walking into a room where your past looms over you. What would he say? Maybe your marriage is in shambles and you don't know what to do. And if Jesus walks in the room right after the big fight, what would he say?"
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4. "And what we get to see is who he is to them. And what we get to hear is what he says to them. And what you and I, when we read these stories, what you and I are asked to believe is we're asked to believe that the same Jesus who spoke, spoke then, speaks now. And what he said to them is what he says to us. We're going to do that this fall. We're going to look at these kinds of stories to hear his voice. What does he sound like? Who is he to people in these different messy moments of their life?"
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5. "And the question over the moment is, what does she think she's doing? And the question over the moment is, what is Jesus gonna do about it? Likely her plan was to anoint Jesus' feet as a kindness to him, as a way to honor him. The roads back then were tough, on feet, the oil would help them. But as she gets closer, she can't help her tears. So she breaks down weeping. Maybe she's overwhelmed by her sin in his presence, probably. Maybe she expected him like everyone else did to stop her. That's close enough. I know who you are. Get back in your place. But he doesn't stop her, he welcomes her, looks her in her eyes, treats her like she belonged."
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6. "And Jesus is so brilliant here. He doesn't argue with him about who has sinned more. Simon has lived a different life than this woman, but that's not the point. The point is the woman can't pay what she owes and neither can he. It's not about the size of the debt. It's about the shared need for forgiveness. It's about the shared need for forgiveness. It's about the forgiveness that neither of them can earn. Jesus says, I want you to see this woman, Simon. See her. Not as a sinner, but as someone who has something to teach you, teacher."
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7. "And he changes the conversation. He changes it from what kind of people need forgiveness more than others to here is what forgiveness looks like. Here's what a forgiven person does. Here's what repentance looks like, coming out as the fruits of repentance in someone's life. Everything about what she does is sorrow over her sin and love for Jesus. Simon wanted a prophet who met his expectations. Simon needed a savior who cancels his debt. And in this moment, the reversal, the only outstanding debt in the room is not her past sexual sin. It's Simon's present unrepentance."
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8. "And Jesus looks at her and his eyes look in love. The first thing he says to her, the first words she hears from his lips, your sins are forgiven. And I just can't imagine him speaking these words, keeping his distance. That's not who he is. I imagine he held her hands, brushed back her hair, wiped her face, touched her. It's intimate but not sexual. Love with no lust. And so with perfume on his feet and dirt in her hair, he speaks, your sins are forgiven. Your past completely covered."
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9. "I think some of us read stories like this and we only see ourselves as Simon. We get the rebuke, but we never get the grace. We don't see Jesus as someone who would love me at my worst. That's only who he is to other people. So we know what to say, but what we actually believe is that he is like that to some, but he's not like that to me. So I'm sitting there in the counselor's office, looking at the empty chair. I'm sitting there unsure about what Jesus would say. And the counselor says, I think Jesus would say, I love you. I love you."
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10. "There is room for me at his feet. There is room for you at his feet. Hear him today. Hear him. Make space in your heart for his voice this morning. And if we could do that together, would you pray with me? Would you bow your head? Would you close your eyes? And I want to lean into what we asked Jesus for this morning. Oh Lord, we need you. We need you. Spirit of God, would you be with us? Would you meet us?"
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