God's Sovereignty and Human Responsibility in Evangelism

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if you believe God is Sovereign and calls people that he Wills to come to himself and predestines who will be saved then what's the need for Missions and what's the need for evangelism and of course the simple answer is God uses missions in evangelism to bring about what he ordains to bring about it's just there [00:01:18]

the issue of saying that to believe that kind of Doctrine makes you non-Evangelistic or non-m missions oriented is just contradicted by many many many many missionaries and many great evangelists including Packer now the other issue in that book is how can God be in control of life and man be still held accountable for his choices which the Bible makes patently clear is true [00:02:25]

the Bible holds man accountable for his choices even ultimately and the Bible says the king's heart is in the hand of the Lord like a river he turns it wherever he wills and yet he's responsible Armenians are often saying Calvinists are governed by Logic that's just the opposite I'm convinced Armenian logic or human logic comes in in and says you can't have accountability where God controls the will [00:02:50]

I say here's what I come to the Bible I say okay here I see that uh as many as are ordained unto eternal life believed so God controlled the believing process and then I see he who does not believe is damned so you're responsible to believe and God controls the believing process what are you going to do with that [00:03:40]

he extols the power of the Holy Spirit and he shows the utter essentiality of prayer he says in fact everybody's a calvinist on his knees meaning that if you don't believe when you're theorizing that God has the right and the sovereignty to intrude into someone's will and situation and take over and get done what he wants done if you don't believe that's right when you get down on your knees and start praying for God to do things you start talking like a calvinist [00:04:07]

all prayers are about the changing of will the changing of human will the prayer that count I mean you might pray for a clear day someday when you have a picnic but main prayers are we want people changed new habits I pray for my sons all my prayer for my sons except for a little teeny bit that has to do with their health has to do with the change of their Wills [00:05:26]

he chose not to follow many and leave a mixed and partially heretical denomination because the 39 articles he believed that are the basis of the Anglican Church are true and even though many have departed from them and are wrongheaded and the Anglican Church has many false ideas running through it he simply says I'm going to stay here be faithful to the founding documents be faithful to the Lord work for Renewal [00:06:16]

the thing that made his reputation most widespread in America was the book knowing god and how many how many have read knowing god okay a good many I I just recommend it above all the others that I've recommended they're all good fundamentalism in the word of God evangelism in the sovereignty of God and now knowing god is just a solid Blockbuster of an introduction to who God is [00:07:22]

the church lives through the potency of preaching the mystery of God's spirit applying God's word to God's people through God's spokesmen so the primary function of theologians is to ensure so far as human beings can that the Bible is explained right and applied properly I think I only give the film version of your thought he's talking to Calvin now [00:10:38]

theologians are the church's plumbers water engineers and sewage disposal agents back room boys whose crucial though unspectacular job is to secure for the pulpits a flow of pure unpolluted Bible truth that's vintage Packer he he knows he has a key role to play namely uh in the church where the water flowing is the Bible truth he's a plumber trying to fix the pipes if they come loose [00:11:14]

the sewage disposal agents I like that one especially because it's not really a happy job to have to deal with all the crap that's taught in the world excuse the phrase there there is just a lot of biblical baloney let's just pull it up a rank there's a lot of baloney that is taught now you can say say well ignore it and it'll go away Paul didn't do that [00:12:06]

all of our Epistles exist because Paul was a sewage disposal agent you just go right through take every epistle they I think almost all of them were triggered by some sewage in the church that had to be cleaned out and we have the New Testament because he was sewage disposal agent and in the church today there are people writing books defending homosexuality for example [00:12:39]

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