Forgiving God: Embracing Pain for Deeper Faith

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"Forgiveness is Supernatural so we're on a journey for to forgiveness but what I have to talk to you about today is maybe the greatest crisis of forgiveness what do you do when the person that you need to forgive is God I got a text from a good friend as part of this series who's been listening in and he asked could you talk about forgiving God he said I've lost in this last year three people who are precious to me all quite young one my very best friend in ways that are unspeakably cruel and leave gaping holes in the lives of families." [00:40:41]

"Now I know I know I know I know um conventional theology tells us God is good and he is perfect and he doesn't do anything wrong and therefore uh to talk about forgiving God does not make sense it sounds impious it sounds wrong I know what strange is when we go to look in the Bible we find these very remarkable statements where people are simply doing precisely that so in Psalm 22 the psalmist begins my God my God why have you forsaken me and there is this strange contradiction this accusation you have forsaken me." [00:55:08]

"No one in the ancient world more than Israel believed that there is a God one God and that that God is supremely good and at the same time no one more than Israel wrote prayers directly to that God pouring out their anguish and their accusations The Book of Job is all about that and job says cursed be the day that I was born May It Be blotted out May those who curse days curse that days and then accuses God of you have shot your arrows into me their poison is killing me accuses God of shooting poison arrows." [00:59:59]

"People who are willing to be deeply honest with God come to a knowledge of him come to a realness in their relationship with him that people who are more polite and more distant and more careful and more cautious seem to be unable to achieve Ellen Davis writes about this uh in her book getting involved with God she writes about how um actually there's a connection between Israel's belief that God is supremely good and their Psalms of lament and complaint and accusation that those expressions those prayers are unique in the ancient world." [01:04:20]

"Remember as we're learning about the process of forgiveness one way to think about forgiving is it's healing our unforgiveness and that unforgiveness grows insides me as I ruminate and as I brood and it gets into my body and even on a human level it may not not always be clear to what extent was the person I think offended me the wrongdoer to what extent that they really do wrong or to what extent was it just uh my own insensitivity or or hypers sensitivity or problem I don't know I still need to go through the process." [01:14:24]

"Ellen Davis writes this um when she's talking about job from this book above all others in scripture we learn that the person in pain is a theologian of unique Authority the sufferer who keeps looking for God has in the end privileged knowledge the one who complains to God pleads with God rails at God does not does not let God off the hook for a minute she is at last admitted to a mystery she passes through a door that only pain will open and I know I know a lot of you stand at that door right now." [01:20:24]

"Silence she writes is the friend who challenges us to be healed when we wish simply to be soothed that sentence is so helpful to me I I want to be soothed but more than that I want to be healed it heals us uh by making us more empty creating a space within our hearts challenging us to what trust that God will use that space and fill it with new life no job's story forces us to put the matter more sharply trusting God is often a central preoccupation of the biblical writers but not in this book rather silence pushes job to challenge God." [01:27:12]

"When job finds words at last he demands steadily that God enter the abyss of loss and be revealed to him there and when we go through that book chapter after chapter of lament and complaint that day comes in the right time on the right day in the right moment in the right way job Sees God job looks into the face of God into God's vast project like we look into the face of somebody who loves us and then there is healing Lou writes uh in his little book about forgiving God about a great crisis in his own life." [01:31:40]

"While Doris was still in the hospital I buried the baby Doris never had a chance to see what he looked like she brought him alive into the world while I had waited out side I brought him dead into the ground while she waited inside then I began to feel the hurt the hurt was the loss of what we had waited for for so long and wanted more than we wanted anything else but it was also the teasing meanness of the crazy game that made us dizzy with pain why after the night of getting ready to love a deformed child." [01:42:20]

"Why after the surprise that even the doctors called a miracle why Miracle do was death the punchline I felt as if I were the butt of a cruel Divine joke would I end up hating God I knew I would never have the courage to bring my hate up front where God could see it I would turn my hate as Jeremiah did on my life cursed the day that I was born but we healed ourselves more quickly than we thought we would I wasn't aware of it then but I know now that what we did for healing." [01:46:59]

"We leaned on each other for strength we began to feel together a strange sense of our life's goodness in spite of this one rotten thing about it we felt together that our life was good in our shared hurt and in this strange sense of life's goodness I felt God again as The Giver not taker of life as the God I know in the suffering Jesus The God Who himself cried out on the cross my God my God why have you abandoned me I don't know what you have suffered I only know that you suffer and I too." [01:51:12]

"The Bible invites us to be as real and as honest and as open and as raw with God and to pour out your heart in complaining God I don't know why this is happening this so hard for me to hold on to you and then hold on and walk through the Journey of having unforgiveness healed at the absolute core of your life and soul forgive us our debts as we forgive." [01:55:39]

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