Finding Purpose and Comfort in Suffering

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"Suffering is any experience that doesn't fulfill our joy, our sense of well-being, our sense of who we are and why we are here, providences that call into question my sense of purpose. I can't help but think of, you know, millions of people, literally millions of people in the Ukraine, refugees in Eastern Europe, who are asking some of the profoundest questions imaginable about real pain and suffering, that they are walking along a road with a rucksack, with all of their worldly possessions, with no guarantee that they will ever be back again and no guarantee of where they're actually going." [00:01:21]

"Suffering is always purposive. In other words, God doesn't act whimsically. There is always a reason why we suffer. We may not know what that reason is, and in a sense, that's the major lesson of the book of Job, that at the end of the book of Job when God finally comes to him in a whirlwind and says, 'Who is this that questions Me with words without knowledge?' Job had been asking for a fight, not a physical fight, but an epistemological fight. He believes that he deserves the answer to the question, 'Why?'" [00:11:38]

"And pain is like that. Suffering is like that. A lot of suffering in the lives of God's people has no one-to-one correspondence; I suffer because of X or I suffer because of Y. Actually, I think, the ultimate answer to that question, 'Why did God create Behemoth and Leviathan?' is for His own glory. And suffering, I think, is designed to bring about in us a desire, no matter what, to give Him glory, because providence is always purposive. There is always a purpose to what God does to bring about His ultimate glory." [00:14:11]

"I think when we really examine our lives and examine the lives of those in Scripture who trusted the Lord, that oftentimes they could do the things that were obedient to the Lord, but it was trusting the Lord that was sometimes more difficult. And that in our lives God brings suffering in order to make us trust Him more. I mean, how many times in your lives ... I can certainly not count the number of times in my life I have asked the Lord to grow my faith, that the Lord would increase my faith, my faith in Him, my faith in all His works, and my faith in His Word." [00:16:41]

"I think the way the Lord has answered that in my life is sometimes by bringing trials and bringing suffering with many tears and much anguish. And there are times, if I'm being completely honest, where I almost wished I had never prayed, 'God increase my faith.' I think when we're young Christians and we hear passages like Romans 5:3-5, James 1, I think 2-4, 'Consider it all joy, my brothers, when you encounter various trials of many kinds,' and so on. When we're young in our faith, we think, 'Yeah, okay, sure, right.'" [00:17:45]

"But it is only when we are older, it is only when we've experienced suffering as a Christian that we really begin to understand the depth of those words. We begin only after suffering and through misery to understand Paul's words in Corinthians, where he's talking about the strength and the power of God being made perfect in our weakness. It's only when we've suffered that we really do begin to identify with Christ and share in the fellowship of His sufferings, which Paul promises and tells us this is going to happen, but I don't think that we believe it." [00:18:30]

"And then it happens. We wonder, 'Why is this happening?' And, I think, for too many of us, we too often try to figure out the reason for the trials, you were saying, the reason for the suffering, when the whole purpose of suffering is not to try to figure out the reason ultimately, but to come under them, to get on our knees and go to the Lord. Too often today, I have to say this, on social media, I think, for some people it's almost as if they use their trial to exploit them and gain more attention from them, when the purpose of them is to drive us to our knees and to drive us to repentance where necessary, to drive us to worship, to drive us to full and more and more complete dependence on the Lord." [00:19:22]

"I find it so interesting that one of the areas I seem to get the most pushback on social media is when I tweet or write about suffering and the sovereignty of God and how I find the sovereignty of God in the midst of suffering a comfort. And so many want to push back on that idea and say that God does not ordain all things and particularly not suffering in the lives of people or Christians. How would you counsel someone that finds the idea of God's sovereignty not a comfort, but they actually find it troublesome?" [00:20:39]

"Well, I don't find it a comfort to think that I can be on I-4 and God isn't sovereign. I don't find it a comfort to undergo major surgery when I'm unconscious and have no power of will or reason and think that three quarters the way through this surgery you reach a spot where God isn't in control anymore. So, Romans 8:28 is as clear as day that 'All things work together for the good of those that love Him.' And they work together because God works them together. They don't work together by an inherent power within themselves, so all things; good things, bad things, all things." [00:21:21]

"And the only answer that satisfies me is Augustine's answer. In dealing with this, he comes up with the felix culpa argument, the happy fault argument, that a world in which grace is experienced is a better world than a world in which you would never experience grace. So, in the realms of theory, God could have created a race of automatons with no freedom of will. But I think the only satisfying answer to me is that a world in which Jesus comes, a world in which we see the immensity of God's love for us in the sacrifice of His Son is a better world than one in which there would be no incarnation and there would be no experience of grace." [00:23:00]

"I have to believe that the totality of all that is is underneath the sovereignty of God to guarantee that this story of redemption is going to be fulfilled and fulfilled in all of its detail. It would only take one random atom ... to undo that entire program. So, from a pastoral point of view, to be able to say to somebody who is passing through the most horrible experience that 'God is still there. There is a purpose here. You may not understand it. It may be extremely difficult right now, but His hand is on the tiller. He is guiding this ship and He has you in the palms of His hands and He says to you, "I will never leave you, nor forsake you."'" [00:24:37]

"The best things that Job's friends did was to say nothing for seven days." [00:30:21]

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