In the journey of Christian hedonism, experiencing depression does not negate one's faith. It acknowledges the reality of emotional valleys and encourages finding joy in God even amidst darkness. Depression is not about idolizing other things but about waiting for God's light to shine again. The Psalms and other biblical texts vividly depict this reality, reminding us that the pursuit of joy in God is not always a linear path. Instead, it is a journey that includes both peaks and valleys, where the presence of God remains constant even when our emotions fluctuate. [02:17]
"For I will satisfy the weary soul, and every languishing soul I will replenish." - Jeremiah 31:25 (ESV)
Reflection: In what ways can you seek joy in God today, even if you are experiencing emotional darkness?
Day 2: The Complexity of Depression
Depression is a multifaceted condition that can involve physical, genetic, and spiritual components. It is not merely a spiritual battle but a state where the capacity to cherish anything, including God, dries up. During these times, the focus should be on waiting for God's beauty to dawn again. Understanding depression in this way allows for a compassionate approach that acknowledges the complexity of the human experience. It is a reminder that God is present in our waiting, and His light will eventually break through the darkness. [05:17]
"The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit." - Psalm 34:18 (ESV)
Reflection: How can you be patient and compassionate with yourself or others who are experiencing depression, recognizing it as a complex condition?
Day 3: Gutsy Guilt and Hope
Micah 7:8-9 introduces the concept of "gutsy guilt," where even in sin-induced darkness, one can confidently await God's vindication. This passage encourages believers to admit their guilt and wait for God's light, knowing that He will bring them out of darkness. It is a call to embrace hope and trust in God's faithfulness, even when circumstances seem bleak. This kind of hope is not passive but active, requiring a bold confidence in God's promises and a willingness to wait for His timing. [06:51]
"Though he fall, he shall not be cast headlong, for the Lord upholds his hand." - Psalm 37:24 (ESV)
Reflection: Is there an area in your life where you need to practice "gutsy guilt," admitting your shortcomings and waiting for God's light to shine through?
Day 4: Preaching to the Soul
Psalm 42 encourages self-preaching, urging the soul to hope in God despite feeling downcast. This practice of speaking truth to oneself is vital in overcoming discouragement and trusting in God's future praise. It involves reminding oneself of God's past faithfulness and His promises for the future. By preaching to our own souls, we can combat the lies of despair and reinforce the truth of God's unwavering love and presence. [08:46]
"Why are you cast down, O my soul, and why are you in turmoil within me? Hope in God; for I shall again praise him, my salvation and my God." - Psalm 42:11 (ESV)
Reflection: What truths about God do you need to remind yourself of today, and how can you preach these truths to your soul?
Day 5: Security in Christ's Grip
Philippians 3:12 emphasizes pressing on because Christ has made us His own. The focus should be on the security of His grip on us, rather than the firmness of our grip on Him. This assurance provides comfort and strength in times of darkness, reminding us that our relationship with Christ is not dependent on our own strength but on His steadfast hold on us. It is a call to rest in the security of His love and to trust that He will carry us through every trial. [11:15]
"And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ." - Philippians 1:6 (ESV)
Reflection: How can you find comfort in the security of Christ's grip on you today, especially in areas where you feel weak or uncertain?
Sermon Summary
In today's discussion, we explored the profound question of whether a Christian hedonist can experience seasons of depression without it contradicting their faith. This inquiry, posed by Hannah from Los Angeles, touches on the heart of Christian hedonism, which is the pursuit of joy and pleasure in God. Hannah's struggle with depression raises a valid concern about the coexistence of joy in God and the experience of deep darkness. The answer lies in understanding that Christian hedonism does not promise a life free from emotional valleys. Instead, it acknowledges the reality of human emotions, as vividly depicted in the Psalms and other biblical texts.
Depression is not merely a spiritual battle where one finds joy in something other than God. It is a complex condition that can involve physical, genetic, and even spiritual components. The battle in depression is not about proving God's supremacy over idols but about waiting for His light to shine again in the darkness. The key is to hold onto the truth that Christ is worth waiting for, even when the soul feels numb.
We examined several biblical passages that offer hope and guidance during such times. Micah 7:8-9 speaks of a "gutsy guilt," where even in sin-induced darkness, one can confidently await God's vindication. Psalm 139 reminds us that darkness is not dark to God, and He is always present. Psalm 42 encourages self-preaching, urging the soul to hope in God despite feeling downcast. First Peter 2:2 calls us to desire God like newborns, reminding us of the taste of His goodness. Finally, Philippians 3:12 emphasizes pressing on because Christ has made us His own, highlighting the security of His grip on us.
These scriptures serve as kindling for the fire of joy, encouraging us to keep piling on the kindling, trusting that God will ignite it in His time. The focus should not be on the strength of our grip on Jesus but on the firmness of His grip on us.
Key Takeaways
1. zq9HQKZqo&t=137s'>[02:17] 2. Understanding Depression: Depression is a complex condition that can involve physical, genetic, and spiritual components. It is not merely a spiritual battle but a state where the capacity to cherish anything, including God, dries up. The focus should be on waiting for God's beauty to dawn again.
3. Gutsy Guilt and Hope: Micah 7:8-9 teaches us about "gutsy guilt," where even in sin-induced darkness, we can confidently await God's vindication. This passage encourages us to admit our guilt and wait for God's light, knowing that He will bring us out of darkness.
4. Preaching to the Soul: Psalm 42 encourages self-preaching, urging the soul to hope in God despite feeling downcast. This practice of speaking truth to oneself is vital in overcoming discouragement and trusting in God's future praise.
5. Security in Christ's Grip: Philippians 3:12 emphasizes pressing on because Christ has made us His own. The focus should be on the security of His grip on us, rather than the firmness of our grip on Him. This assurance provides comfort and strength in times of darkness.
What does Micah 7:8-9 suggest about the attitude one should have when experiencing darkness or sin-induced guilt? How does this passage encourage believers to respond? [06:22]
In Psalm 42:5, what is the psalmist's approach to dealing with a downcast soul? How does this reflect the practice of self-preaching mentioned in the sermon? [07:56]
According to Philippians 3:12, what is the reason given for pressing on in faith, and how does this relate to the concept of security in Christ's grip? [10:10]
How does the sermon describe the nature of depression in relation to Christian hedonism? What are the key differences highlighted between depression and typical spiritual battles? [03:43]
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Interpretation Questions:
How does the concept of "gutsy guilt" in Micah 7:8-9 challenge or support the idea that Christians can experience both sin and hope simultaneously? What does this imply about God's role in our recovery from darkness? [06:51]
In what ways does Psalm 42:5 illustrate the importance of self-preaching during times of spiritual dryness? How might this practice impact a believer's journey through depression? [08:46]
Philippians 3:12 emphasizes the security of Christ's grip on believers. How does this assurance influence a Christian's ability to endure seasons of depression or spiritual struggle? [11:15]
The sermon suggests that depression is not merely a spiritual battle but involves various components. How does this understanding affect the way Christians might approach their own or others' experiences of depression? [05:17]
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Application Questions:
Reflect on a time when you felt distant from God. How did you respond, and what might you do differently now in light of Micah 7:8-9's message of "gutsy guilt"? [06:51]
Psalm 42:5 encourages self-preaching. What specific truths about God can you remind yourself of when you feel spiritually downcast? How can you incorporate this practice into your daily routine? [08:46]
Considering Philippians 3:12, how can you focus more on the security of Christ's grip on you rather than your own efforts to hold onto Him? What practical steps can you take to rest in this assurance? [11:15]
The sermon discusses the complexity of depression. How can you support someone in your life who is experiencing depression, acknowledging both the spiritual and non-spiritual aspects of their struggle? [05:17]
How does understanding that depression can coexist with Christian hedonism change your perspective on your own emotional valleys? What steps can you take to seek joy in God even when you feel numb? [02:57]
Identify a specific area in your life where you struggle to find joy in God. What biblical truths or practices can you apply to help reignite your passion for Him during these times? [05:34]
Reflect on the idea of "piling on the kindling" of joy. What are some practical ways you can consistently add kindling to your spiritual life, trusting that God will ignite it in His time? [11:00]
Sermon Clips
"Hello Pastor John, I read your book Desiring God years ago and it completely wrecked me in a great way. I couldn't believe that God wanted me to enjoy him. It has been such a blessing to learn from you how to experience the love and pleasure of God, but my question comes from a place of fear. I have a tendency to be depressed and have spent at times months and once years in darkness. I learned how to move through it, forsaking lies and seeking the promises and truth of God in order to be free of them." [00:15:44]
"Maybe it's a sweet providence that we are recording this just days after John Bloom, who works at Desiring God, published at the website Desiring God an essay called 'My Soul Refuses to Be Comforted: A Song for Long Nights in Darkness.' It's a meditation on Psalm 77. I don't think there are many guides for people like Hannah, than John Bloom. Not many better guides." [01:10:56]
"Depression is not mainly a spiritual battle in which a person is finding joy in something other than God and thus showing that God is not the treasure. That's not what depression is. Depression is not your ordinary battle with idolatry. I'm distinguishing genuine seasons of depression from the more ordinary kinds of disappointment or sadness or frustration or anger or discouragement." [03:39:20]
"Depression is more complicated than that and probably has significant physical components, perhaps genetic tendencies, perhaps satanic oppression, and the darkness is not obviously because the depressed person is cherishing some idol more than God. Depression is when the capacity to cherish at all has dried up and there is a deep dark numbness of soul." [04:57:28]
"The battle in depression is not primarily to persuade the soul that Christ is more precious than, say, money or family. The battle is to persuade the soul that Christ is worth waiting for in the darkness and that his beauty will dawn again, not just on the mind as a truth but on the soul as a treasure." [05:27:19]
"Micah 7:8-9: Rejoice not over me, O my enemy; when I fall, I shall rise; when I sit in darkness, the Lord will be a light to me. I will bear the indignation of the Lord because I have sinned against him, until he pleads my cause and executes judgment for me. He will bring me out to the light; I shall look upon his vindication." [06:14:56]
"Psalm 139:7: Where shall I go from your Spirit? Where shall I flee from your presence? If I say, 'Surely darkness shall cover me,' the light about me will be night. Even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is bright as the day, for darkness is as light with you." [07:12:72]
"Psalm 42:5: Why are you downcast, O my soul, and why are you in turmoil within me? Hope in God, for I shall again praise him, my help and my God. That text served me for years in struggle with discouragement so much so that we put it as a big sign on the side of the church building for decades." [07:52:96]
"First Peter 2:2: Like newborn babes, long for the pure spiritual milk that by you may grow up into salvation, if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good. Now all true Christians have tasted the truth and the kindness of the Lord. That's how we became Christian." [09:04:88]
"Philippians 3:12: Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, and here's the key phrase, because I press on because Christ Jesus has made me his own. In other words, we press in, we press on to know, to taste, to feel, to love, to delight in, to own Christ." [10:07:12]
"God holds us decisively, not the other way around. We reach out because we are in his arms. This is all kindling; all those verses are kindling for the fire of joy. So, Hannah, keep piling it on, keep piling on the kindling. God will set the match in due time." [10:41:20]
"Don't think too much about the firmness of your grip on Jesus. Think mainly about the firmness of his grip on you. Thank you for that wonderful reminder, Pastor John, and thanks for joining us today on the podcast." [11:09:04]