Finding Joy in God Amidst Depression

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"Hello Pastor John, I read your book Desiring God years ago and it completely wrecked me in a great way. I couldn't believe that God wanted me to enjoy him. It has been such a blessing to learn from you how to experience the love and pleasure of God, but my question comes from a place of fear. I have a tendency to be depressed and have spent at times months and once years in darkness. I learned how to move through it, forsaking lies and seeking the promises and truth of God in order to be free of them." [00:15:44]

"Maybe it's a sweet providence that we are recording this just days after John Bloom, who works at Desiring God, published at the website Desiring God an essay called 'My Soul Refuses to Be Comforted: A Song for Long Nights in Darkness.' It's a meditation on Psalm 77. I don't think there are many guides for people like Hannah, than John Bloom. Not many better guides." [01:10:56]

"Depression is not mainly a spiritual battle in which a person is finding joy in something other than God and thus showing that God is not the treasure. That's not what depression is. Depression is not your ordinary battle with idolatry. I'm distinguishing genuine seasons of depression from the more ordinary kinds of disappointment or sadness or frustration or anger or discouragement." [03:39:20]

"Depression is more complicated than that and probably has significant physical components, perhaps genetic tendencies, perhaps satanic oppression, and the darkness is not obviously because the depressed person is cherishing some idol more than God. Depression is when the capacity to cherish at all has dried up and there is a deep dark numbness of soul." [04:57:28]

"The battle in depression is not primarily to persuade the soul that Christ is more precious than, say, money or family. The battle is to persuade the soul that Christ is worth waiting for in the darkness and that his beauty will dawn again, not just on the mind as a truth but on the soul as a treasure." [05:27:19]

"Micah 7:8-9: Rejoice not over me, O my enemy; when I fall, I shall rise; when I sit in darkness, the Lord will be a light to me. I will bear the indignation of the Lord because I have sinned against him, until he pleads my cause and executes judgment for me. He will bring me out to the light; I shall look upon his vindication." [06:14:56]

"Psalm 139:7: Where shall I go from your Spirit? Where shall I flee from your presence? If I say, 'Surely darkness shall cover me,' the light about me will be night. Even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is bright as the day, for darkness is as light with you." [07:12:72]

"Psalm 42:5: Why are you downcast, O my soul, and why are you in turmoil within me? Hope in God, for I shall again praise him, my help and my God. That text served me for years in struggle with discouragement so much so that we put it as a big sign on the side of the church building for decades." [07:52:96]

"First Peter 2:2: Like newborn babes, long for the pure spiritual milk that by you may grow up into salvation, if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is good. Now all true Christians have tasted the truth and the kindness of the Lord. That's how we became Christian." [09:04:88]

"Philippians 3:12: Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, and here's the key phrase, because I press on because Christ Jesus has made me his own. In other words, we press in, we press on to know, to taste, to feel, to love, to delight in, to own Christ." [10:07:12]

"God holds us decisively, not the other way around. We reach out because we are in his arms. This is all kindling; all those verses are kindling for the fire of joy. So, Hannah, keep piling it on, keep piling on the kindling. God will set the match in due time." [10:41:20]

"Don't think too much about the firmness of your grip on Jesus. Think mainly about the firmness of his grip on you. Thank you for that wonderful reminder, Pastor John, and thanks for joining us today on the podcast." [11:09:04]

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