Faithful Conversations: Jesus, Sexuality, and Humility
Summary
### Summary
Today, we delved into the complex and often controversial topic of Jesus and sexual minorities, specifically addressing same-sex intercourse within the Christian faith. This conversation is crucial because our default assumptions about sex shape much of who we are. We must engage in these conversations with humility, recognizing that we are all sexually broken and in need of healing and restoration. Our theology should aim to honor one another, even in disagreement, and should be rooted in intellectual honesty and genuine curiosity.
We began by examining the biblical texts that address same-sex intimacy, starting with Genesis 2, which sets the foundation for the traditional perspective on marriage as a union between two sexually different persons. We then moved to Leviticus, where the prohibitions against same-sex intimacy are often debated. The progressive perspective argues that these texts are either culturally specific or no longer applicable to New Testament Christians, while the traditional perspective maintains their relevance.
In Romans 1, Paul condemns what he sees as unnatural sexual relations, which the progressive perspective interprets as excessive lust rather than mutual same-sex relationships. The traditional perspective, however, believes Paul was aware of mutual same-sex intimacy and condemned it. We also looked at 1 Corinthians 6 and 1 Timothy 1, where the meanings of the Greek words malakoi and arsenikotai are debated. The progressive view sees these as references to exploitative practices, while the traditional view sees them as broader condemnations of same-sex intimacy.
Ultimately, the traditional sexual ethic, which I hold, is seen as more faithful to the biblical text and paints a better story of human sexuality. It emphasizes that our bodies matter and that sex is a sacred gift aimed at building lifelong, loving relationships. However, this conversation is not about public policy or cultural practices but about faithfulness to Jesus. We must approach this topic with humility, recognizing that Christ is the judge and that we are all invited to wrestle with these issues together.
### Key Takeaways
1. Humility and Shared Brokenness: We are all sexually broken and in need of healing and restoration. Our theology should aim to honor one another, even in disagreement, and should be rooted in intellectual honesty and genuine curiosity. This approach fosters a community where difficult conversations can happen with grace and respect. [03:39]
2. Biblical Foundations: The traditional perspective on marriage, rooted in Genesis 2, emphasizes the union of two sexually different persons. This view sees male and female as complementary, each bringing unique gifts to the relationship. This interpretation underscores the importance of both sexes in the most fundamental human relationship—marriage. [12:36]
3. Relevance of Levitical Laws: The debate over Levitical prohibitions against same-sex intimacy highlights the complexity of interpreting ancient texts. While the progressive perspective argues these laws are culturally specific or obsolete, the traditional perspective sees them as still relevant, especially when they align with New Testament teachings. [18:49]
4. Paul's Condemnation in Romans: In Romans 1, Paul condemns what he sees as unnatural sexual relations. The progressive view interprets this as excessive lust, while the traditional view believes Paul was aware of mutual same-sex intimacy and condemned it. This passage invites us to consider the broader context of human sinfulness and the call to repentance. [27:37]
5. Invitation to Wrestle with Scripture: Jesus honored the authority of Scripture, and as his followers, we are invited to do the same, even when it makes us uncomfortable. The traditional sexual ethic is seen as more faithful to the biblical text and emphasizes that our bodies matter. This vision of sexuality is not centered on fulfillment but on union with God. [33:59]
### YouTube Chapters
[0:00] - Welcome
[00:59] - Introduction to Sexual Formation Series
[01:57] - Jesus and Sexual Minorities
[02:51] - Approach with Humility
[03:39] - Shared Sexual Brokenness
[04:22] - Pastoral Position on Human Sexuality
[05:48] - Faithfulness to Jesus
[06:35] - Six Scriptures Overview
[07:50] - Traditional Perspective Clarified
[08:30] - Language and Terminology
[09:45] - Genesis 2: Suitable Helper
[12:36] - Complementary Elements
[14:07] - Genesis 19 and Leviticus
[18:49] - Relevance of Levitical Laws
[21:08] - Paul's Teachings in Romans
[27:37] - Broader Context of Romans 1
[29:13] - 1 Corinthians and 1 Timothy
[32:24] - Greek Terms and Interpretations
[33:59] - Wrestling with Scripture
[35:45] - Christian Vision of Sex
[37:42] - Questions and Answers
[40:49] - Final Thoughts and Prayer
Study Guide
### Bible Reading
1. Genesis 2:18-25 (NIV)
> The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. But for Adam no suitable helper was found. So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and then closed up the place with flesh. Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man. The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
2. Romans 1:26-27 (NIV)
> Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way, the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
3. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NIV)
> Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
### Observation Questions
1. According to Genesis 2, what was God's solution to man's loneliness? How did He create a suitable helper for Adam? ([09:45])
2. In Romans 1, what does Paul describe as "unnatural" sexual relations, and what is the consequence mentioned? ([22:53])
3. What types of behaviors and people does Paul list in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 as not inheriting the kingdom of God? ([29:13])
4. How does the sermon describe the traditional perspective on the relevance of Levitical laws for New Testament Christians? ([18:49])
### Interpretation Questions
1. How does the traditional interpretation of Genesis 2 emphasize the importance of sexual difference in marriage? What does this imply about the roles of men and women? ([12:36])
2. What are the key differences between the progressive and traditional perspectives on Paul's condemnation in Romans 1? How do these perspectives interpret "natural" and "unnatural" relations? ([22:53])
3. How does the sermon suggest we should approach the topic of sexual ethics within the Christian community? What attitudes and behaviors are encouraged? ([03:39])
4. What does the sermon imply about the role of humility and intellectual honesty when discussing controversial topics like same-sex intimacy? ([04:22])
### Application Questions
1. Reflect on the idea of shared sexual brokenness mentioned in the sermon. How can recognizing our own brokenness change the way we engage in conversations about sexual ethics? ([03:39])
2. The sermon emphasizes the importance of humility and intellectual honesty. How can you practice these virtues when discussing controversial topics with others? ([04:22])
3. Considering the traditional perspective on marriage from Genesis 2, how can you honor the unique gifts that both sexes bring to a relationship in your own life? ([12:36])
4. How can you create a community that honors one another even in disagreement, as suggested in the sermon? What practical steps can you take to foster such an environment? ([03:39])
5. The sermon invites us to wrestle with Scripture, even when it makes us uncomfortable. What are some ways you can engage more deeply with the Bible to understand its teachings on sexuality? ([33:59])
6. How can you support and love sexual minorities in your community while holding to your convictions? What actions can you take to ensure they feel welcomed and valued? ([39:10])
7. Reflect on the idea that the abundant life is not centered on sexual fulfillment but on union with God. How can this perspective shape your approach to relationships and sexuality? ([35:45])
Devotional
Day 1: Humility and Shared Brokenness
We are all sexually broken and in need of healing and restoration. Our theology should aim to honor one another, even in disagreement, and should be rooted in intellectual honesty and genuine curiosity. This approach fosters a community where difficult conversations can happen with grace and respect. Recognizing our shared brokenness allows us to approach others with empathy and humility, understanding that we are all on a journey towards healing. This perspective encourages us to listen more and judge less, creating a space where everyone feels valued and heard. [03:39]
Romans 3:23-24 (ESV): "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus."
Reflection: Think of a recent disagreement you had with someone. How can you approach that person with humility and a recognition of your shared brokenness today?
Day 2: Biblical Foundations
The traditional perspective on marriage, rooted in Genesis 2, emphasizes the union of two sexually different persons. This view sees male and female as complementary, each bringing unique gifts to the relationship. This interpretation underscores the importance of both sexes in the most fundamental human relationship—marriage. By understanding this foundation, we can appreciate the distinct roles and contributions of each gender in a marital relationship, fostering mutual respect and love. [12:36]
Genesis 2:24 (ESV): "Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh."
Reflection: Reflect on the unique gifts that men and women bring to relationships. How can you honor and appreciate these differences in your interactions with others today?
Day 3: Relevance of Levitical Laws
The debate over Levitical prohibitions against same-sex intimacy highlights the complexity of interpreting ancient texts. While the progressive perspective argues these laws are culturally specific or obsolete, the traditional perspective sees them as still relevant, especially when they align with New Testament teachings. This discussion invites us to consider how we interpret and apply biblical laws in our contemporary context, balancing respect for tradition with an understanding of cultural shifts. [18:49]
Leviticus 18:22 (ESV): "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Reflection: How do you discern which biblical laws are culturally specific and which are timeless? What steps can you take to deepen your understanding of Scripture in this area?
Day 4: Paul's Condemnation in Romans
In Romans 1, Paul condemns what he sees as unnatural sexual relations. The progressive view interprets this as excessive lust, while the traditional view believes Paul was aware of mutual same-sex intimacy and condemned it. This passage invites us to consider the broader context of human sinfulness and the call to repentance. Understanding Paul's teachings helps us grapple with the complexities of human sexuality and the importance of aligning our lives with God's design. [27:37]
Romans 1:26-27 (ESV): "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error."
Reflection: Reflect on an area of your life where you feel out of alignment with God's design. What steps can you take today to seek repentance and realignment?
Day 5: Invitation to Wrestle with Scripture
Jesus honored the authority of Scripture, and as his followers, we are invited to do the same, even when it makes us uncomfortable. The traditional sexual ethic is seen as more faithful to the biblical text and emphasizes that our bodies matter. This vision of sexuality is not centered on fulfillment but on union with God. Wrestling with Scripture means engaging deeply with God's Word, seeking to understand His will for our lives, and being willing to be transformed by it. [33:59]
2 Timothy 3:16-17 (ESV): "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work."
Reflection: What is one Scripture passage that challenges you? How can you commit to wrestling with its meaning and application in your life this week?
Quotes
1. "If we aren't a community that talk and talks about things that matter, our faith will cease to be relevant. And let's be honest, sex matters. Side note, I have been really overwhelmed and overjoyed by all the book recommendations and positive feedback that we've received as we've walked through this. Frankly, all summer long, I had a significant amount of anxiety about this series. And wading into this conversation, just feeling like I'm going to die. It feels messy. And the overwhelming response has been positive and excitement." [00:59] (39 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
2. "We are all sexually broken. Every last one of us grappling with how our sexuality fits in the way of Jesus. And because of our shared sexuality, sexual brokenness, our theology and conviction should aim at healing and restoration, not shame or guilt. So to say it as plainly as possible, there is no room for mockery, for contempt, or for shaming in this community. We can honor one another even as we disagree on important subjects." [03:39] (36 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
3. "As we follow Jesus and attempt to read the scriptures faithfully and seek the guidance of the Spirit, we may come to different conclusions on very important subjects. But the good news is that Christ is the judge, and he will graciously work it all out in the end. So this is a conversation for those who share that aim to be faithful to Jesus. So to be clear, I am addressing faithfulness to Jesus, not public policy, not cultural practices, or what your unbelieving neighbor should do." [05:05] (35 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
4. "I think the traditional sexual ethic is not only more faithful to the biblical text, but I also think it paints a better story. Because our bodies matter. God created us as whole beings, body and soul. To be male or to be female is very good. Christianity is grounded. It's earthy. It's physical. It locates meaning in our bodies. And each sex brings meaningful and unique gifts to the world. Men and women are invited to collaborate with God for the sake of our world. And the marriage union is a reflection of that invitation." [35:45] (48 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
5. "The abundant life is not sexual fulfillment. It is union with God. And even as we experience tension and discord, we are not in our sexual desires. We are invited to discover that every longing leads back to God. That prayer from Augustine rings true once again. You have made us for yourself, oh Lord. Our hearts are restless until they rest in you." [36:45] (28 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
6. "Can I hold a progressive stance and still be a part of this church? Absolutely. Our goal has never been to create theological clones, but thoughtful disciples who take their sexual formation very seriously. So if you disagree with me, you will not find a cold shoulder. You'll find a warm conversation partner. I promise that all we're here to do is follow Jesus together. And that may mean there's some tension and some friction, but ultimately there's only love and love." [39:10] (31 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
7. "I just genuinely hope that this is the type of community in which it is safe to wrestle and struggle with our sexuality. Because all of us are sexually broken. You don't get out of the struggle just because you're straight. We're all invited to the same struggle to figure out how does our sexuality fit in the way of Jesus. I hope that as we struggle together that new possibilities are opened up to us because we are in pursuit of the one who makes all things new." [40:49] (37 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
8. "How generous, how warm, how accepting, and how kind-hearted did he have to do to invite such a thing from her? How gracious was his presence that a sex worker would feel comfortable in his midst? I genuinely think that wherever you land on this conversation, that that you have to be a woman. That you will find in Jesus the safest being in the entire universe to work it all out. That he is the safest presence in which we can bring the whole of ourselves to him, and we do not find condemnation, we don't find a harsh rebuke, we find healing and wholeness." [43:29] (50 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
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