Exploring God's Existence in a Scientific Age

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"In our first session we considered the question of truth and how we can have it, and in this session, Dr. Gerstner, we’re going to get down perhaps to the most important single truth of Biblical Christianity, and that’s the question of the existence of God. I’m aware, as you are, that the Bible begins with the simple statement, “In the beginning, God.” There’s no attempt at that point to prove the existence of God." [00:00:47]

"Now, we seem to have clear evidence that we don’t need to appeal to God to account for this universe. In recent months, and over the past year or so, we’ve seen the vast exploration of space through the Hubble spacecraft, and we’re getting more information daily about the origins of this universe that seem to suggest that this universe, thank you very much, came into being without any assistance from some supernatural being that we call God." [00:02:22]

"GERSTNER: First thing you mention is a Big Bang theory, and then you say associated with that is the idea that there was an eternity behind that. Now, I know something about the Big Bang theory, as I’m sure everybody listening here does, but I must not have been reading adequately in the scientific journals when I was told that this Big Bang theory somehow proved that the universe has been there from eternity." [00:05:07]

"SPROUL: Well, Dr. Gerstner, if you want the demonstration, let me spell it out for you. I was just speaking shorthand because – I don’t want to be patronizing, but there had to be something to go ‘bang,’ Dr. Gerstner. And so there had to be something before the Big Bang for it to bang." [00:07:57]

"GERSTNER: My first point will be this: that you are not proving the eternity of matter. You’re just assuming it. So you have no right to condescend and sort of look down your academic nose at persons who don’t affirm out of hand that matter is eternal." [00:09:50]

"SPROUL: Now, the question of the existence of God, OK, is in dispute not only for eternity and for yesterday but for right now. In fact, that’s the thing we’re discussing – whether there exists now a God. Now, I said you want to assert the existence of God from all eternity, and I’m saying why not just project backwards the existence of that which we both agree exists now?" [00:12:20]

"GERSTNER: I’m just observing you haven’t proven anything yourself – SPROUL: I don’t have to. GERSTNER: Well, you are saying that – you are talking about eternity and all that sort of thing, and I’m just pointing out that it’s a gratuitous assumption – SPROUL: What? That there’s an eternity? GERSTNER: Yes. As far as science is concerned." [00:14:29]

"GERSTNER: Now, the only thing I’m gratuitously assuming with you is that matter is eternal. And I’m just reminding you, lest you get a little bit of the scientific arrogance into your spirit that science has demonstrated that that is so, and it hasn’t demonstrated that is so, and you have not shown it is, but I’m willing for the purposes of debate to assume what you are more or less affirming and so on, that matter is eternal." [00:15:12]

"GERSTNER: Who is this gentleman, that gentleman right back of you, – SPROUL: This man here. GERSTNER: – was perfectly willing to admit that he couldn’t prove that matter was not eternal, but he could prove that God was the author of it. And I think Thomas Aquinas was quite correct when he said so, and I would like to try to prove to your excellency, the Devil’s representative, that indeed even if matter were eternal, we would assume that it’s like the matter we know today, that shows, for example, intelligence." [00:15:51]

"SPROUL: Well, but in modern studies, Dr. Gerstner, indicates that our thinking, and that what we call our mind, is simply the result of electrical responses and stimuli in the brain and in the neurons and so on. Can we not reduce intelligence to physical reality?" [00:19:22]

"GERSTNER: May we not – I would rather insist that we can know without any Bible that there is a Creator, that He is basically good, that something has gone wrong with the universe we haven’t had time to discuss. Just from nature, and if He actually revealed Himself in this book we’re going to talk about, that would make it all the clearer. No more authoritative, but all the clearer." [00:26:28]

"SPROUL: But maybe what we need to do, since our time is up for this session, is to lay the rest of this on the table for a while and look ahead to that time when we can look at the picture of that – of the trustworthiness of that book that gives so much information that you – GERSTNER: Am I allowed to get in a final word before the bell rings?" [00:26:07]

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