Exploring Biblical Bromance: Jonathan and David's Deep Bond
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1. "So, bromance, let me show this first. Bromance is, it says that it's a very close non-sexual relationship between two or more men, a group of men could be. It is an exceptionally tight and affectionate homosocial male bonding relationship, exceeding that of usual friendship. And it's distinguished from normal friendship by a particular high level of emotional intimacy." [26:15] (26 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
2. "Like normally, in a normal male-to-male relationship, usually we just stay at a level, at least in our conversation, we stay at the more factual, more casual, like a ritual, like a ritual talking, what we call ritual talking is like, hey, how's it going? It's like, you're fine, it's good, or... That kind of level of conversation. We talked about things that it's outside of the person. Like, oh, how's the weather? How's your job? How was the ball game? How was last night's NBA game? Things are very superficial, and also it's outside of our being. That's how we usually communicate, between men, between males." [28:09] (42 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
3. "So, when you talk about bromance, it exceeds that. It's more intimate, more into different things, our emotional well-being, what we're thinking, and our thoughts. And what's more, and what I think I should say, what's worse, is that male-to-male conversation can easily go into a debate about something. Like, who's right, who's wrong? Why I think my opinion is right, or why you think your opinion is good. That's usually, we tend to kind of stray to that kind of arena." [29:15] (39 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
4. "What connects them, what unites them, it's not their appearance or their might or their family, but their pursuit of Yahweh, but their steadfast resolve in following the Lord. And that's what brings them together. And I believe this is why Jonathan, Jonathan so in love, so loved this guy, because he knows he is here for the Lord." [44:23] (31 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
5. "First of all, now, what does it have to do with us? Now, I would say this relationship, this story between these two men, it's a prototypical example of what it means to love your neighbor as yourself. Love your neighbor as your own soul. Two times in, actually three times, probably two or three times, in the Bible, it says that Jonathan loved him as his own soul. 愛人如己, love him as his own soul." [46:40] (35 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
6. "It's a very sacrificial and committed love that Jonathan has shown to David. And I would say, this is the command when Jesus, in John 15, when he said that, love one another. And this is the same as the command that Jesus gave us." [48:43] (23 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
7. "The deeper we go, the deeper our conversation, the deeper our relationship gets, it's easier, we're more susceptible to hurt, to danger. On the side of the chart, it's actually, as you go up the relationship ladder, or go up the communication ladder, there's an increased risk. 在旁邊我們看到, 講得深入的話, 越來越多危險, 越來越多受傷的機會。 It's natural. It's natural that we behave like that. It's natural that this happens." [53:42] (36 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
8. "God's love can remove that fear, even though at times our thorn may remain, but it can remove that fear to get close, of being hurt, the fear of being hurt. Allowing us to try again, to try again, to get closer to each other. I believe it's only then, not just that in our head we believe the same thing, but we also experience the same thing, experience the same perfect love, then we are able to come together." [57:22] (38 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
9. "Because our experience of love allows us to knit our soul together. I don't expect us to change overnight. I don't expect that. But we should walk toward that. We should aim for that. And allow us to be a community that embrace together. Even, I thought, even porcupine needs to cuddle sometimes, right? How do they cuddle? Well, maybe carefully. Maybe carefully. But more importantly, is when they're willing to open their arms." [01:01:24] (49 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
10. "Not a better preacher. No. Not a better program, maybe. But we need that genuine, authentic relationship between one another. To love one another as Christ loved us." [01:02:08] (18 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
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2. "Like normally, in a normal male-to-male relationship, usually we just stay at a level, at least in our conversation, we stay at the more factual, more casual, like a ritual, like a ritual talking, what we call ritual talking is like, hey, how's it going? It's like, you're fine, it's good, or... That kind of level of conversation. We talked about things that it's outside of the person. Like, oh, how's the weather? How's your job? How was the ball game? How was last night's NBA game? Things are very superficial, and also it's outside of our being. That's how we usually communicate, between men, between males." [28:09] (42 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
3. "So, when you talk about bromance, it exceeds that. It's more intimate, more into different things, our emotional well-being, what we're thinking, and our thoughts. And what's more, and what I think I should say, what's worse, is that male-to-male conversation can easily go into a debate about something. Like, who's right, who's wrong? Why I think my opinion is right, or why you think your opinion is good. That's usually, we tend to kind of stray to that kind of arena." [29:15] (39 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
4. "What connects them, what unites them, it's not their appearance or their might or their family, but their pursuit of Yahweh, but their steadfast resolve in following the Lord. And that's what brings them together. And I believe this is why Jonathan, Jonathan so in love, so loved this guy, because he knows he is here for the Lord." [44:23] (31 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
5. "First of all, now, what does it have to do with us? Now, I would say this relationship, this story between these two men, it's a prototypical example of what it means to love your neighbor as yourself. Love your neighbor as your own soul. Two times in, actually three times, probably two or three times, in the Bible, it says that Jonathan loved him as his own soul. 愛人如己, love him as his own soul." [46:40] (35 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
6. "It's a very sacrificial and committed love that Jonathan has shown to David. And I would say, this is the command when Jesus, in John 15, when he said that, love one another. And this is the same as the command that Jesus gave us." [48:43] (23 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
7. "The deeper we go, the deeper our conversation, the deeper our relationship gets, it's easier, we're more susceptible to hurt, to danger. On the side of the chart, it's actually, as you go up the relationship ladder, or go up the communication ladder, there's an increased risk. 在旁邊我們看到, 講得深入的話, 越來越多危險, 越來越多受傷的機會。 It's natural. It's natural that we behave like that. It's natural that this happens." [53:42] (36 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
8. "God's love can remove that fear, even though at times our thorn may remain, but it can remove that fear to get close, of being hurt, the fear of being hurt. Allowing us to try again, to try again, to get closer to each other. I believe it's only then, not just that in our head we believe the same thing, but we also experience the same thing, experience the same perfect love, then we are able to come together." [57:22] (38 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
9. "Because our experience of love allows us to knit our soul together. I don't expect us to change overnight. I don't expect that. But we should walk toward that. We should aim for that. And allow us to be a community that embrace together. Even, I thought, even porcupine needs to cuddle sometimes, right? How do they cuddle? Well, maybe carefully. Maybe carefully. But more importantly, is when they're willing to open their arms." [01:01:24] (49 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
10. "Not a better preacher. No. Not a better program, maybe. But we need that genuine, authentic relationship between one another. To love one another as Christ loved us." [01:02:08] (18 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)
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