1) "I think maybe the biblical perspective is, no, we are called to protect. Are we? We are young. We want to help them strengthen and at the right time, let them leave the nest and go. And so the tension is going to be in where is the line on protecting and equipping? Where is the line on preserving? I think the principles are the same. It's just the practice that's different. The principles when I was growing up again, my culture growing up in the 80s in England, very post-Columbian. Christian de-church culture. I think the the the presence and influences on this generation are louder and more available for sure."
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2) "So for me as a parent, we for me and Mel, we had a clear principle that our role is we would rather them be exposed to environments while they were still living with us, be exposed and navigate and talk about them environments whilst they were with us, because we knew once they leave home, they're going to encounter them. So we would rather. Equip them, nurture them, coach them, have them be open to that while we had the protection of under, you know, in our nest. Yeah. So it's down to protection is protection. Ha ha ha ha. Is protection. Don't allow them to ever, ever get in the environment or is protection equip them for the impact."
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3) "I think, and I would say biblically, as a parent, you're responsible. As a parent, you've got a responsibility. Jesus is strong when he said, if you cause any of these little ones of mine to stumble, better to put a millstone around his neck and throw him into the lake. Like, Jesus is strong with the accessing of children to come to know him. He's strong on that. Don't hinder them. But he's also strong on, don't you cause any of these little children to, to, to, to stumble and fall and be bad."
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4) "We cannot be with them 24 seven. Are we giving them the tools to navigate things when they come their way? And it's a relationship where they can talk about it. You know, I think you've mentioned the word is boundaries in the word sheltered and protective. I think these, the word boundaries and I don't know if I've already said it in this podcast or not boundaries. I I'll say this. Um, I believe there are, we live in, we need a boundary and freedom is living life to its full extent. Knowing where the boundaries are. Yeah. That's freedom. Freedom. Isn't no boundaries. That's foolishness. Right. So freedom isn't no boundaries. Freedom is knowing where the boundary is and living life to its fullest inside that boundary."
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5) "I think for us in this tension of the word sheltered, can, can come across very negative. And I know it can be, I could just think it can be oppressive and I've just seen a response from people sometimes where they feel that weight of oppression that when the moment of that's released, they, they don't know the boundaries. They don't know the other boundaries. We've set the boundary so tight that when they push beyond that boundary gone, I would rather go. Do you understand? Yes. Do you understand? Yeah. Do you understand consequence outside that boundary? But inside here you are free to experience all the fullness that is within here."
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6) "I'm going parenting is a team sport. Absolutely. I'm wanting to take multiple voices to come in and around and influence my kids lives. So that's why I'm saying I think the value of of a youth pastor or a small group leader in the life of your your teenager gold the the knowing that you've got a 14 year old have them hang around with a Jesus following 19 year old. I'll let him see what that life is. Our. Our kids were exposed to teenagers when they were kids and older ones in our house all the time. They I wanted him to see good role models. I wanted him to hear the story of the 17 year old messing it up."
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7) "Who are you? Who do you want to be? And what is, you know, and I'll just say it. Who is Jesus to you? Really? Who is Jesus to you? Really? If it's just some, well, it's just a cult right now. Is he your king? Do you trust him? Are you learning his words, living his ways and loving like him? Are you going to make mistakes? Yeah, you know, but you need people around you people around you who can help and support. Will they hold you accountable? I kind of like that phrase, but at the same time, I'm like, who are you in relationship with? Who are you in relationship with? You know that that that in itself? Who can I be honest with?"
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8) "What I would say is let's flip that. Why aren't we then who are in this blessed situation to have your kids grow up in a Christ following home? Yeah. Why aren't we equipping them so that they can influence those kids? They took the first step to come. Yes. Why can't they be salt and light to them? Why can't they represent? Hey, come imitate me as I imitate Christ. Paul said, why? Why can't we have that info? That's how we talk. We taught our kids. We taught our kids that you could be an influence to them. Yes, they do have a broken situation where they're in love on them."
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