Engaging Faith: Christology, Assurance, and Repentance

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R.C. SPROUL: I think mainly the influence of my studies in seminary as a young man and looking at what happened and what God did in the Reformation of the 16th century. You see that the magisterial Reformers were world-class academicians, people like Luther and Calvin and so on. But they understood that if you're going to have reformation you have to take your case to the people, and that's what I meant by being a battlefield theologian rather than an ivory tower theologian. That you've got to make your case before the people and communicate to the people. [00:51:55]

R.C. SPROUL: John Piper said it somewhat like this, that not only must we be able to confess our faith and not only must we be able to defend our faith, but we must be willing and able to contend for the faith once for all delivered in sacred Scripture. And so there is always a polemical element involved in the confrontation between the world, the flesh, and the Devil and the truth of the Christian gospel. And so, we have to be willing to be the church militant before we'll ever expect to be the church triumphant. [00:99:05]

DEREK THOMAS: You and I have spoken recently of how in the 20th century in response to liberalism and an understandable response to liberalism, evangelicals have been defensive of the deity of Christ but have often done so in a way that has compromised the humanity of Christ. And if you were to ask a congregation or a fellow Christian just a very basic simple question, "If you went up to Jesus, He is walking in Galilee, He's moved away from the disciples, you see a moment to sort of sidle in and have a quick Q&A session with the Savior and you ask Him a simple question." [00:228:17]

STEVEN NICHOLS: I would say, if you wanted to know the Jesus of the Bible, you should read the Bible. And the reason why I say that is because Jesus is quite a cultural figure, and there's a great deal of material out there on Jesus as a cultural icon. He shows up in all sorts of places throughout history, throughout culture. Those very quickly become distortions of who Jesus is. And so, what we constantly need to do and even evangelicals in many ways can harbor these distortions, if we want to know the Jesus of the Bible, we need to read the Bible and not only just the parts of the Gospels that we like about Jesus; we need to see the whole complex of Jesus as He comes to us in the Gospels. [00:474:22]

R.C. SPROUL: I think that the Ethiopian eunuch got to know Jesus savingly without the Bible when he heard the proclamation from Philip. And we have seen all kinds of cases where people have orally proclaimed the Word of God without the Bible, so it's not a necessary condition to have the Bible in order to have a saving knowledge of Christ. But certainly, if you want a sanctified understanding of Christ, you need the Bible. [00:575:34]

MICHAEL REEVES: I think we have to say, absolutely not. We do not see a breakdown of the relationship between the Father and the Son in the sense that the Trinity is somehow breaking apart. That is not what is going on. The language of separation that is used, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" is the language used of being under the wrath of God, being separated from the presence of His graciousness. But there is nowhere for anyone who is under the wrath of God to escape from the presence of God ultimately. [00:737:52]

DEREK THOMAS: Everything that we read about Jesus suggests that the entirety of His fulfillment of His role as the servant was done through effort, that the temptations were not imaginary, they were real temptations. I think in John chapter 4, the "woman at the well" story, is in some measure a sexual temptation. Here's a woman who's had five husbands. She is working on her sixth, and number seven, which is a significant number for John, is Jesus. I think the setting is at a well. The language of drawing from a well is full of double entendre. [00:847:63]

STEVEN NICHOLS: I'll hop in here. This is helpful for me to think about, because in many ways the context and maybe this is true for some of you, came initially to Christianity, not necessarily within Reformed context, and it strikes me that, like what sort of sealed this in my thinking is Christ's -- is the pronouncement, "It is finished." And that is, I think, the thing we have to reckon with here. Either Christ accomplished redemption on the cross and secured it, or if He simply provided it and made it available, then that requires us to add something to what Christ did on the cross for salvation to be effective. [00:1113:97]

IAN HAMILTON: Undergirding the work of Christ is the holy concurrence of the Triune God in the work of Christ. What the Father has purposed, the Son has accomplished, and the Spirit applies. And if you posit anything else, then you're looking to posit some kind of disjunction in the Holy Trinity. You're saying that the Father sent the Son to save everyone, the Son died in order to save everyone, but the Holy Spirit chooses not save everyone. At the very heart of the work of Christ is this glorious, holy concert between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in perfecting the work of Christ, perfecting it in terms of the eternal counsel to save, perfecting it in the accomplished work of Christ on the cross, and perfecting it in the application by the Holy Spirit to all of those given by the Father to the Son, and that's the glory and beauty and symmetry of the gospel of Jesus Christ. [00:1245:82]

R.C. SPROUL: But God did more than just make it possible for salvation; He made it certain. He had a plan, eternal plan to save and if for no other reason than for the glory of His Son. The only explanation I can give for being included in the kingdom of God is that we are the gifts that the Father gives to the Son that He may see the travail of His soul and be satisfied. But I think the big problem that we're dealing with all of this is that we wrestle every single day with a concept of human strength and freedom that is utterly unbiblical. It has been inculcated from kindergarten on in the Western world through humanism that really denies a fatal fall into sin. [00:1416:86]

R.C. SPROUL: And then you can say, "Well, do I really believe in the Lord Jesus Christ?" How can I sin the way I sin when I know that's not consistent with true faith in Christ? Good news to know that we don't have to be perfect in order to be saved, but we do have to understand who it is that saves us and how it is that we are saved. Very practical ways, I've talked to people who struggle with this question. I ask them, "Do you love Jesus, the biblical Jesus? Do you love the biblical Jesus perfectly?" I've only heard two people in my life who have answered that question in the affirmative to me, who would say yes, they love Him perfectly. [00:2207:76]

R.C. SPROUL: But yes we have to confess, and with that confession comes a real godly sorrow, not just a fear of punishment, what we call "attrition," but a broken and contrite heart, God doesn't despise, but He desires it as the reality of our repentance. [00:2694:91]

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