Embracing Uncertainty: Growth Through Faith and Trust

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because if you are able to live with poise and empathy for other people in the midst of being uncertain about what you want you will grow way more than if you had the luxury of certainty and I realized then um there is a gift of uncertainty or a strategic use of uncertainty in the formation of character people will grow more in uncertainty than they will when they have surgery [00:01:37]

Eleanor says why didn't God just initially tell Abraham it's going to take 24 years it's going to be you you know biologically it's going to be your wife Sarah and she says it's because God knew that Abraham would grow more uh if he had to learn as things went along it had uncertainty made mistakes discovered God was patient with him God was the kind of person that still cared with them he would learn much more through that than if he would have been given an unambiguous instruction in the beginning [00:03:39]

I profoundly disagree I think ambiguity is indispensable to character formation and that's probably particularly true for leaders and leaders have to learn in the midst of ambiguity not by forcing artificial certainty but by acknowledging embracing and leaning into the reality of ambiguity really well said [00:04:20]

our view of God is important yeah and I think you said something like man if if someone treated me like how I felt God was treating me can you I mean talk a little bit about times when I think if somebody treated me the way I perceive God is treating me I would call them a toxic person and I would put boundaries around it [00:05:41]

curiosity and that just has reframed how I view moments when I'm faced with anxiety and I'm thinking okay instead yes the the similarities and and he talks about it the similarities with anxiety and curiosity is you don't know what the future holds there's uncertainty yes you don't know what's coming up but you can approach it from from a aspect of fear or faith and curiosity is a way that we approach it going I wonder what God's going to do here [00:07:33]

so if you tie that together with why over 350 times in the Bible and I would say it's not even a command it's an invitation why because fear gets in the way of everything and so I think the one of the leaders main jobs is to recognize that we're anxious leaders do not like to think of ourselves as anxious people we are among the most anxious and how do I apply the gospel to my anxiety [00:08:23]

when there is a secure attachment between the child and the parent what happens is the child will go to the mom for a few moments and uh have that sense of reassurance things are okay but then go explore the room so that's where when there's not the presence of anxiety there is curiosity it's not that the child sits in the mom's lap and is at peace if we are at peace and we're not living in fear we have a bent towards curiosity [00:09:24]

and you must do that not your elders not your staff and you cannot leave it to how are the outcomes going you must arrange your life that way and so when I think about daily well-being uh it's been a couple years ago now I had a really bad day and a really good day back to back and I was reflecting the next morning after those two days what was the difference and the three words that were real Vivid to me [00:14:36]

on the good day I was unhurried on the bad day I just felt this chronic sense of I don't have enough time I'm rushed and inadequate and not able to be present um freedom on the bad day I felt a constant sense of pressure and then surrender on that good day I would often carry that kind of okay God your will be done you will be done on the other day was I want this I gotta have that I demand this I don't like what you're doing [00:15:08]

so how do we in the image of Christ how do we like how Jesus led how do we lead like he led and how do we lead ourselves in that moment what what should we be doing what's what's a practical question we can ask ourselves to counter that well I'll do one quick but I'll be really eager to hear you on this because I think and you guys are so different like that's the best part it's like it's not like the Bible doesn't say or God's not saying you have to lead one particular way [00:18:02]

and uh if I do that and sit with it for a moment and say yep right now I can be aware of things I'm afraid of and possible outcomes in the future that might be really hard um and I can name that say yep and I am trusting God will be with me and I know In This Moment all I have to do is be with you and be with you I cannot solve that um when I just sit and say yes that's my fear that's what I'm anxious about I'm able to be with it [00:20:07]

do you have an activity that when you engage in it it makes you lose track of time and are you doing that for at least an hour a week because that was kind of the that was the single biggest predictor of people that can sustain and Ministry and people that don't yeah and at the bottom of all of this is the question of how are we connected to God in a way when everything else Falls away which is death your family your work all of which are good things but at the end of the day you die alone [00:22:25]

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