Embracing the Divine-Human Partnership in Scripture

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It's challenged my paradigm for what it means for the origins of the Bible, but it's also been at least a growing insight and conviction for me that the biblical story itself is trying to explore for us the mystery of God's activity in the world and his action in the world in and through human partners. [00:00:38]

For the biblical authors, they have a more sophisticated way of thinking about God's action in the world that it's not separate from human action, that one of the primary ways that God does work in the world is through people and through human agency. [00:02:47]

The fundamental premise of the biblical story is about how God provides this well-ordered world full of potential and beauty, and then the culmination is God installs images of God to represent God's rule and wisdom and presence in the world so that God's rule takes place in the world through humans ruling and the whole thing is about a divine human partnership. [00:03:10]

Of course it goes wrong and humans end up being pretty unfaithful partners, but then the culmination of the story if you're a Christian is not about, again, God acting independently of humans. It's about God binding himself even more tightly to the human story by becoming the human that we are all made to be, but we fail to be. [00:03:40]

In a way, the incarnation of Jesus as divine and human is really tightly connected to the origin of the Bible as divine and human. [00:04:07]

It was really important to the first few centuries of early church leaders to clarify that the humanity and the deity of Jesus are not mutually exclusive. They're distinct, but they are, they implicate each other and you can't pull them apart. [00:04:15]

You can't say, well, that was like the God part that did that. And then that was the human part that did that. They're fully bound up. And for me, that has become a helpful way to think about the Bible itself. [00:04:34]

Usually what I began to discern is that the person in question had an assumption that if God is active in the world, it's independent or has to be exclusive to human agency. [00:05:17]

A lot of apologetics energy goes into making that kind of case about the origins of the Bible. I just want to step back and say but why do we feel like we need to provide that kind of—the Bible is remarkable but I think the way that it is remarkable is maybe even more sophisticated than our assumptions might lead us to. [00:05:43]

God's spirit is one of the main words the biblical authors use when they want to talk about the direct presence of God within creation, but in a way that it's not like you can identify God as a thing somewhere but rather it's a pervasive presence under everything but it's a personal presence. [00:07:06]

God's the spirit, which is the Hebrew word ruach, which means breath or wind or personal presence, and apart from before humans entered the story on days one through five of creation, every time God's spirit is mentioned throughout the rest of the Bible it's always in connection with a human who is acting under the prompting, guidance, influence of that presence. [00:07:32]

The way God acts in the world is through humans acting in the world and those aren't different. [00:07:57]

It was really my discipleship to Jesus that woke me up to the existence of other people as being as important as myself. [00:08:17]

It's been the Bible that has led me on a journey of intellectual growth, but also, Lord willing, you have to ask my wife, I suppose, of personal and character growth. [00:08:35]

All of it has been led by my discipleship to Jesus through just reading and studying and learning from scripture a lot, especially on this point, that the way God is acting in my own life isn't independent of my own action and choices and will and desires. [00:08:47]

There's so many places where this is perfectly obvious in the Bible, like maybe I just didn't have eyes to see it because it's not where I was at in life, you know, in my first, you know, 30 years. But now it's so clear to me that Bible really isn't about anything else except about the mystery of God and creation and God and humans and the way God is present in the world. [00:09:12]

It's transformed everything for me. But it's hard. For me, it's a paradigm now. So it's hard for me to think about it because it's more something that I think through. But that's a slow, slow process for most of us. [00:09:37]

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