Embracing Leadership: Vision, Change, and Humility in Ministry

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I think I have always wanted to find the most gifted people possible and get them around me and turn them loose with their gifts and abilities. To do that, I have to be pretty self-aware of what God has asked me to do, of what I'm able to do, of what my gifts and talents allow me to do. [00:17:20]

In 2017, the Lord began to place on our hearts collectively, not just mine but in a group of men around me at the village, that the future of the church was highly contextualized localized ministries. We were a giant multi-site church with 15,000 people, five locations, and the Spirit of God began to kind of move in our hearts of what it would look like to transition those campuses into autonomous churches. [00:19:00]

I was operating more out of anti-vision than envision. If that makes sense, yes, so as a 20-year-old and a 30-year-old, I knew what I didn't want to be more than I knew what God was calling me to. And that's such a big deal because when you do that, you are making the ministry about you. [00:23:14]

I needed to get somebody to help me navigate some old wounds in my heart, some broken patterns of thinking, what the Bible would call strongholds. And that was easily for me the most difficult and challenging turn in what's been 20 something years of ministry now. [00:24:56]

I feel more alive now than I did when I was in my 20s just carrying all that weight. I had the physical stamina of youth but also was carrying weight that I didn't know how it's carrying that I don't feel like I'm carrying it all. So it's funny, my energy levels probably about the same now as when I was in my 20s and 30s. [00:26:25]

The greatest joy in my life, as you would hope for me and I think would expect, is my wife Lauren, who is far more gifted than I am. In fact, I often say I'm Lauren Chandler's husband. She's written songs and Bible studies and just such a partner in ministry, and such a partner as I pastor this church and as I lead this network. [00:16:04]

We were really compelled by the Holy Spirit that this was the direction that we needed to go. And so since 2017, we have at each campus set a metric up where do we have the right man to lead it, can he build the right team, can he establish elders and deacons at his congregation, and then can he lead in the kind of way he needs to be able to lead. [00:19:55]

I needed this kind of reckoning where the Spirit of God and I needed to go get a little bit of help. I needed to get a coach, I needed to get somebody to help me navigate some old wounds in my heart, some broken patterns of thinking, what the Bible would call strongholds. [00:24:56]

I think I became pastor of the village at 28. Like a lot of leaders in that are at the level that God's placed me, what we did is just survived. Somebody threw us in the deep end of the pool, we're in our 20s, and we just survived. [00:23:10]

I love that I love that man. I wanted to ask you, as you talked about just all the things just 89 specifically but you being a pastor a father your greatest what do you feel like as a leader and a kingdom builder which is what this segment is what what is your greatest accomplishment in ministry. [00:18:40]

I think I have always wanted to find the most gifted people possible and get them around me and turn them loose with their gifts and abilities. To do that, I have to be pretty self-aware of what God has asked me to do, of what I'm able to do, of what my gifts and talents allow me to do. [00:17:20]

I needed to get somebody to help me navigate some old wounds in my heart, some broken patterns of thinking, what the Bible would call strongholds. And that was easily for me the most difficult and challenging turn in what's been 20 something years of ministry now. [00:24:56]

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