Embracing Intimacy: Unity in the Trinity

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"and conversation that we've been talking about is the first level of shared experience it doesn't have to to be verbalized in the way we might think of it uh ordinarily if you watch a a mother with her child you see them sharing an experience and you watch the little child coming from the stage where it can hardly have an experience and then it begins to respond and the richness of that relationship continues to grow as the possibilities of their experiences uh expand so what was the glory that Jesus had with the father before the creation of the world it was this marvelous company of persons sharing one another and the exploration the thoughts the feelings perhaps dimensions of experience that we can't even identify or imagine" [00:11:08]

"and Jesus has prayed for us who are his apprentices in Kingdom living that we should know one another with the kind of intimacy that is present between him and his father are you ready for that now you see for the most part we're not about to go there because we are too scared and we know that intimacy makes us vulnerable and as a consequence we as we say don't we say we keep our distance isn't that an interesting phrase we keep our distance we play our cards close to our chest right and we know somehow that we'd better do that because it is not safe to do otherwise" [00:12:57]

"well what might the fellowship of apprentices be other than progressively moving in the company of Jesus and the trinity more and more into the open where we are able to trust one another if you have never read Dietrich bonhoeffer's book life together I encourage you to read it Bonhoeffer was an incredibly gifted and I mean it in the spiritual sense Gifted Man who came to understand what it was like for people to come together in Christ and it is not safe to come together except in Christ because you have these conflicting kingdoms that are not subordinated to God and the result of that is alienation and that's the condition of human beings all of the evils that you see in human life come from alienation that in turn comes from thinking wrongly about God" [00:14:06]

"and it's only as you come to know the complete safety that you have in the kingdom of God that you can begin to move towards other people in the kind of shared life that is found in the trinity it's wonderful to think about the Trinity and bring some of these old doctrines to life for example we say there's no subordination in the trinity well guess what there's no subordination in those who are living in the trinity see many people confuse Oneness with identity and mess up the trinity and that's how you get groups like down in Texas there's a Jesus only group and because they don't know the difference between Oneness and identity they are pushed by their misguided reasoning into thinking that Jesus is the trinity that Jesus is the father that Jesus is the spirit because they cannot distinguish Unity Oneness from Identity" [00:15:10]

"now there's no subordination in the trinity why not because they're identical but because the members of the Trinity will not put up with it that's why there's no subordination in the trinity because they love one another think the thought that they admire one another they admire one another and so they're not worried about who's ahead or who's behind and there's no alienation in the trinity and actually because there's no alienation they don't you know have a conversation they have communion and they have Union see conversation is where you start to overcome alienation and if there's only alienation there's no conversation because there's no Con in the versation good and you watch people get in a mess in a family or a community and they don't converse why not there's no con so there's just verse right" [00:17:02]

"and we have trouble with marriage and so on and someone hears the phrase the two shall become one and they say which one and the answer is neither one all right so it's so important for us to go back to what Jesus is praying for and when we see the beauty of it then we can understand what he's saying when he says verse 22 the glory which thou Hast given me I have given to them that they may be one just as we are one how is that possible well it's possible because of the trinity which is one and which invites us into its Fellowship the extension of the Trinity to human beings who have become Disciples of Christ and been baptized in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit" [00:18:36]

"now you probably know that when the Bible talks about the name they're talking about the reality so that great statement of Jesus Make Disciples of all Nations baptize them in the name of the father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is not saying as you get them wet in one way or another say over them in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit rather it is saying pull the disciples into communicate communitarian trinitarian Fellowship and they began to get a taste of what real life is like and the union of his people is such that now notice in i in them thou in me that they may be perfected in unity that the world may know that you sent me and did love them even as you loved me" [00:19:12]

"and the next verse in order that they may behold my glory you see that glorious Community stands forth in Earth and when people see it there's no argument left see that's the true way to present Christ is embodied in his people and I'm often asked by people who find out that I am what I am students and others why are you a follower of Christ and the answer is another question who else did you have in mind where's the competition there is none" [00:20:36]

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