Embracing Humility and Collaboration in Church Leadership

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"Well, I have to give a disclaimer that I can't solve all the problems, but we are here to facilitate and to nurture people to focus on the mission. That's really what it's all about. A lot of times, you get mired down in problems and challenges and disagreements, and people are upset, you know, about this or that." [00:01:28]

"When I say my office, I approach this in a very humble way because being the president of the general conference is an impossible job, essentially, except that you lean on the Lord every day. You ask the Lord to give you wisdom every day." [00:02:54]

"You work in a collaborative way. I have to tell you, personally, we have a wonderful group right now that is working together in such a dynamic way. The secretary, Pastor Kohler, the treasurer, Pastor Douglas, and we work in a very harmonious manner. We bounce ideas off of each other." [00:04:48]

"We have a new emphasis now called Back to the Altar, which is really a call for church members and families and young people to come back to the altar of God, to take time to study the Bible, to take time to pray, to really be recharged spiritually." [00:09:04]

"But when we have problems and challenges, we have to consult, we have to talk, we have to listen, we have to work our way through, we have to discuss things, we have to pray. Much more can be done if we just spent more time asking the Lord, what do you want us to do?" [00:12:00]

"And you have observed well, Pastor Sam, because there's no point in trying to bring something in where you're not going to get much support. What's the point in that? You can mandate it and try to force it, and you won't get anywhere. I mean, you may get a vote for it, a majority vote simply because, well, okay, they want to vote, so I guess we'll vote, but you won't get any support afterwards." [00:16:10]

"And one has to look at this not as a job, not as a political appointment, but as a sacred responsibility. And that's why every day, leaders within the church who are ordained ministers or people who are appointed to certain positions and are lay representatives on the executive committees, all of them need to recognize their sacred spiritual responsibility." [00:20:10]

"So I think first and foremost, whether you are a pastor, whether you are an ordained minister, whether you are an appointed person within the structure, or a lay person who is involved with the executive committee and the progression of ideas, you need to be personally connected with the Lord so that the Holy Spirit is working in us to help us to feed people with knowledge and understanding." [00:21:29]

"But you must never, ever imagine that this respect can be taken advantage of by you as an individual to achieve your own personal gain or some kind of power leverage. Because immediately when you do that, you will lose connection with life. That is the real source of power, and that is heaven itself." [00:26:53]

"And the Lord is speaking, behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh. Is there anything too hard for me? And that's the reference that every president, every secretary, every treasurer, every pastor, every department director, everybody involved in teaching, in health ministry, in publishing, doesn't matter what it is. All of us need to refer back to the Lord's ability to accomplish and facilitate through us in a humble, simple way, the mission of the church." [00:32:01]

"Well, first of all, I learned many, many things from my dad and watched him over many years and would call him and ask for advice, you know, well into his retirement years. And it was a beautiful way of connecting with someone who had enormous experience." [00:37:09]

"So I don't want to say that politics don't take place in the church because we know they do, unfortunately. You want to minimize that. You want to downplay that. You want the Holy Spirit to guide and to lead. You want the Holy Spirit to influence people in nominating committees when they are looking at names for particular offices." [00:44:33]

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