Embracing Honesty: The Path to Trust and Growth

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"when I think I know one thing about somebody and then I learned that something completely different is the case, that is so profoundly disorienting and it can be in a small way or in a large way but, um, that it's really hard to recover and you know a lot of people cannot recover from a kind of betrayal or dishonesty because it gets that do I actually know reality like if I thought this was bedrock and I find out you're not faithful then then what is real" [00:00:00]

"the way honesty comes up the most often is in its counterpart dishonesty. um so when people are not truthful and that's a big theme in relationships, friendships, business teams, uh marriages, um when there's dishonesty you know the uh you know maybe the main way of of uh talking about that would be like an affair when there's an affair, um and I've long felt like the main point of pain when the trust is violated at an extreme level like that, the main point of pain is deception" [00:02:41]

"to repair that can take just it's possible I have a lot of really wonderful stories John uh being a counselor of people being able to repair a rift that profound in that deep but it's the dishonesty the deception that is the hardest thing to overcome and and then trying to build practices that enable uh a relationship to recover from that which often means sort of micro attention to honesty where are you, um you know people will use their phone trackers and that sort of thing to verify trust and verify" [00:04:02]

"Christian Miller describes an honest person it's very challenging he says uh it's different uh doing an honest Act is different than being an honest person if uh uh shopkeeper doesn't cheat their customers on prices when they could but the reason that they're doing it is because they think they might lose business that's not the market but truly honest person so it's not just doing the honest thing it's doing it for a good reason for the right reason" [00:05:43]

"an honest person isn't just somebody who is honest to another person, um they seek to be honest with themselves, and so they constantly step back and say what do I believe what do I think is true and does it measure up so, um for instance with faith I can think about growing up where uh Faith was a strong value of people that might say I'm not going to read that book because I'm afraid if I read it it would damage my faith" [00:06:16]

"honesty doesn't even begin really he says with other people it begins looking at myself, yes and I'm sad to say even in therapy even in counseling people often take a long time and obviously that's going to lead to truth and lead to growth to be honest with yourself to start with but that sometimes is you know you were telling me we were talking a little bit earlier about the four ways of being dishonest remind me what those were misleading was what" [00:06:54]

"he has five categories, um one of them is when you lie that's pretty obvious straight line but another one is misleading, um you know uh yep I went bowling with the guys tonight and that may be true but I might have done something else where I'm not actually telling a lie but I'm not telling the whole truth so then it's possible to mislead I read that book yeah yeah yeah yeah, or just you're kind of Nod you know yeah yeah it could just be I've seen that book" [00:07:19]

"stealing, um you know somebody who's going and I take the food from their plate to take a small example yeah um honoring somebody's property, um cheating and very painful for me it's just thinking in the past on a test in school or playing tennis where uh I have memories of doing this like man I wish I had that to do over again I know that's not the person that I want to be but that's in me yeah, um and then um honoring promises" [00:07:52]

"when people come and see you as clients how do you know they're telling you the truth, well it's a little humbling to think about that and almost embarrassing that sometimes people will come and obviously I'll set the therapy up as this is a place where we roll our shirt sleeves up and say anything and your job is to not care at all about what I think but to lay it out is honestly and truthfully as you possibly can so that's a well-practiced speech with me" [00:08:45]

"I have kind of a thought that the truth will eventually come out and that it generally gets out and that that propels the work and I can tell you, experientially when people are dishonest and then the truth comes out the growth happens much more rapidly and much more profoundly so it's very interesting again Christian Miller the honesty project effect finds when it comes to honesty what's true with other character issues also which is, um the basic question how good is our character the basic answer is not very good" [00:09:28]

"think of something that someone Close to You needs to hear uh and tell them something that's true and helpful but probably not something that they want to hear and I know everybody listening has somebody yeah in their life that they could do that with just to practice this would be one of those character things that if we're not naturally that honest and that is just all that research that you it's frightening in a way but I know it's true no it's really I know it's true and it's convicting great suggestion" [00:10:50]

"so Nancy I'll be home in a few minutes no that was a lie that was a lie yeah James is coming today" [00:11:24]

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