Embracing Holiness Through Training and Indirection

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"Now what I have found is that people struggle on these first two three paths of Christian progress one is to try harder to live up to the commandments don't do it and that's what makes people hopeless obviously there should be a desire to keep the commandments but you don't get there by trying harder." [00:02:04]

"Brokenness has become exalted in recent years as a constant condition in which you must live. Don't sing that song to me about victory in Jesus there ain't no victory in Jesus you just stay broken until you're dead and out of here and something will automatically happen and you'll become a person who is comfortable in righteousness." [00:03:13]

"I would say that humility empowers you and brokenness doesn't you remember what humility is now and here again I go back to the books why living independence absolutely right give that girl an a in the course that's right now you see brokenness is a limited form of defendants it's dependence on forgiveness." [00:05:32]

"Progress toward the character and power of Christ by indirection that's the way disciplines work is indirection that's true in any area you don't just start with Beethoven's apocanada sonata and try real hard to play it if you succeeded it wouldn't be because you have become a musician maybe you have become a robot." [00:09:27]

"Holiness means full obedience to Christ now that's right and then you have to be careful and one of the things that not only Calvinism but Arminianism and all the isms is they come to this and then they have problems interpreting it and the almost inevitable tendency is to try to interpret it in terms of specific actions." [00:19:25]

"Self-denial does not say oh I am nothing I am nothing I am nothing you ain't nothing you're something and you bring that into subjection to Christ the king and that is self-denial it's subjecting your kingdom to his kingdom it is surrender of the will in precisely that sense and it means anything but that you become a nothing." [00:23:01]

"Joy is not whoopi um joy is as I said a pervasive sense of well-being and that is compatible with pain and sorrow so basically we just have to make sure that they understand what these are and it's really important that we do that and one of the reasons why I spend so much time defining and describing is because we desperately need it." [00:30:32]

"And there really is no solution to the um difficulties of life than the hope of heaven and if that's if see if that doesn't mean anything to us then it won't help us and it's very interesting and it's it's fascinating to watch people handle the text of old writings look on page 67." [00:33:36]

"Hopefulness for the next life is what lifts us out of all of the difficulties in this life and so you get language like on page 70 human life is nothing but a vapor or shadow well the things of earth grow strangely dim right so we've even sung that here in the light of what the full story is." [00:36:22]

"God has placed us in this world at a place in a time and that we are to stand there as his vicars now if you don't believe that you're a vicar of Christ you believe you need a backward collar on or something to be a vicar please work on that you are a vicar of Christ where you are that's your calling." [00:37:09]

"Don't try to do what he said try to become the kind of person who would do what he's that's the indirection that's the indirection so running scales that's the indirection because if you do that it turns out you can actually do that other stuff that Beethoven wrote out for you and it will be something of a surprise and a gift when you do." [00:11:23]

"Holiness does not consist in a specific set of actions or beliefs that would mark you out as a good Calvinist or something of that sort and now he has it right the top of page 19 paragraph opening there we should exhibit the character of Christ in our lives for what can be more effective than this one stirring consideration." [00:20:03]

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