Embracing God's Hiddenness: Faith Amidst Suffering

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"well it is almost Christmas and we've been walking together through Advent with this idea that uh in Jesus God is offering his life together with him you're going to go through the day anyway you can go through it I can go through it with God or I can go through it without God and it's much better to go through it with goddd and it's always a good day when I get to go through at least a part of it with this person right here This Is War chbg Turner always a good day always a good day" [00:01:12]

"she has this really great book of um collected sermons really that are kind of about Advent um or about other things that have to do with themes of Advent and so she had this beautiful sermon that was all about um the God who hides and in that essay or sermon she talks a little bit about this idea that um you know it's it's one of the best reasons to read through the Old Testament is because it's just full of descriptions of what God is like" [00:03:41]

"so if we were to live in a world where we couldn't say anything positive about what God is not positive like you go girl but you know like you go God I am not these things um how would we know God and so she talks a lot about um you know the passage where Moses wants to see the face of God for example and God puts him in a little CFT in the Rock and um covers them up" [00:04:34]

"and there's such um one of the things fluming rled writes about is like of course we can't know what God is like of course God is beyond our imagination in his hiddenness because we didn't come up with God so like what makes us think that we can just kind of take every piece apart and understand God like he was some you know clock um and we could understand by by breaking down the sum of his Parts what he is like" [00:06:26]

"there's no point in having a faith that doesn't believe that God is hidden and doesn't have some kind of Illumination or understanding as to why because faith that doesn't grapple with that is a fairly shallow faith faith and she she gave this sermon right around the time of the Sandy Hook massacre so there are all these very young children you know my son's age who had died there's there's no answer for why" [00:07:11]

"but if I don't believe that he is somewhere at least with me in some way hiding and his goodness and his love and mercy are operating behind the scenes where I can't see them um then it's kind of an anemic Faith it's kind of too thin to really stand up to you know what actually happens in the world and so I think that there's a lot of power in that and in who God is" [00:08:16]

"the story of Herod and the genocide and killing of uh baby boys two years old and under and this maybe think sometimes uh how would the families that lost a child have felt about Mary and Joseph and the story of Jesus and when Jesus was 30 and those moms were to hear about him what would that evoke in them and that that story is part of what made it into scripture" [00:09:23]

"there's a kind of Integrity to uh that Rachel refusing to be comforted no don't give me a reason don't explain it don't tell me it's okay don't tell me God had a i will not receive that Comfort I will protest and lament on my lost children and somehow that lament and that protest and that howl of pain makes it into the story of Christmas too" [00:11:18]

"if at some point he doesn't encounter a faith in a God who is good and real and present in spite of these kind of things um he will never have a real Faith you know he will grow up um and feel like the Christianity that he knew was um did not meet the very real needs and realities of the world in which he lived and so um that's a big part of you know the death of a child" [00:12:47]

"there is something very powerful about saying if God is in that and in Rachel's tears and you know somehow with Moses and in all of these things then then God Is With Us in all of the other you know hardships and losses as well I was talking this last week in therapy um which by the way you still haven't paid for I can send you a bill no I cost the need for but I haven't paid for it yet" [00:13:28]

"it's very Barren landscape and then the knock the the Jesus in this painting um doesn't have his hand even like this to it's just kind of like this like it you know it would be like a very gentle and soft noise and I feel like just thinking of that in line with the hiddenness of God it's like to be alive on the earth to see you know through a glass dimly is to just be in this room where we have the handle on one side" [00:15:23]

"it's a wonderful exercise to just think through characters in The Bible or maybe uh even in the Christmas Story and the holy family and um think about actors or or folks that don't fit the herbal te yeah yes all this category you know tattooed whatever uh just to get them into the real people category and so youall might do that today everybody watching this just think about a few unlikely suspects and put them in the story" [00:21:17]

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