Embracing Collectivism: The Power of Prayer and Community

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In some cases, this cultural focus on individual rights, may lead believers to prioritize personal preferences over the unity and well-being of the church community, which can create division. Accountability and interdependence versus privacy and independence. In the New Testament, the church is often described as the body, 1 Corinthians 12, where each member relies on others and believers are encouraged to hold each other accountable, James 5, 16, 13. Galatians 6, 2. This collective support system helps individuals grow spiritually and stay on track. [00:17:58] (42 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


In short, the New Testament collectivist message does present challenges in an individualistic culture, but it also provides a counter-cultural model for creating communities marked by deep unity, support, and sacrificial love. By embracing this model, Western Christians can foster a faith community that balances the best of individual responsibility and collective unity. [00:20:59] (31 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


Number three, there is personal accountability where each of us, everybody, is going to stand before the judgment seat of Christ, to be judged for the works done in the flesh, whether good or bad. we're not growing as a group all right everybody's going to be judged separately right um every people are called um to follow in jesus as individuals everybody is called individually to call to take up their cross and follow him so you're absolutely um it's absolutely right to say that there's an individualistic side of christianity that we must not lose right but but there's significantly there's a collectivist side and the the parallel is like a child when a child is born the child has to learn to do things for themselves and they're fundamentally individualistic they're fundamentally selfish selfish and they fundamentally only think about themselves but what happens is that when the child begins to grow up hopefully we pray it because it's not organic these days hopefully they they think about the wider community they think about their family they think about their mother they think about their siblings they think about their brother they think about their sister they think about their parents they think about the extended family and they think about the wider community [00:22:35] (73 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


and i'll read from verse 50 says when they are finished eating this is jesus after he's resurrected from the dead and he shows up to the disciples when they are finished eating jesus said to simon peter simon son of john do you what translation is this all right and i do you love me more than these yes lord he said you know that i love you jesus said feed my lambs again jesus said simon son of john do you love me he answered yes lord you know i love you jesus said take care of my sheep the third time he said to him simon son of john do you love me peter was hurt because jesus asked him the third time do you love me he said lord you know all things you know that i love you jesus said feed my sheep but and there's a lot of stuff that can be said around that but i don't want you to do so but look at verse 18 and listen to this see see what i'm trying to get you to see here says for truly i tell you when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted but when you are old you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which peter would glorify god then he said to him follow me let me try and break this down for you jesus is actually saying to to peter no when you are and this is just like a child right so in in our family any is the youngest and he doesn't want to know it but he is and sometimes we're telling him and he doesn't want to hear it but when you're the youngest we let you get away with anything there's you do whatever you want we let you do whatever you want you can almost say whatever you want within limits because you are young you don't get it yet but the time comes when you're young you're young you're young you're young you're when you're of old some of the things that we take from and we don't take them anymore no you need to grow up now you're 13 now i think um um so you you you have to behave in a way that is different from when you were a child no you have to think about other people now no you need to think about this you need to think about that you wouldn't have to think about because you were a child before this is what jesus is saying to peter all that stuff that you did where you were betraying me before and then you couldn't identify with me and you couldn't take your place with me that's past now i'm letting you go on that but um now this is what i want you to do he's saying to him he says uh uh let me find it again he says uh when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted you did whatever you want but when you are old or when you're mature you will stretch out your hands and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go in other words you're not going to think individualistic you're going to think you would rather not do this but for the sake of the kingdom you are now going to do it right and then he said and actually here he's talking about death who wants to die nobody wants to die i don't want to die [00:34:56] (0 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


but jesus sent him no um and and this is the whole i could take this this is the whole thing where i think that our gospel is wonky right the idea that the outcome of the thing has to always be what you want is wrong surely we know that god wants everybody to live and that god wants everybody to have a long life by default that's his default position but peter jesus is saying to peter no you're you have a special calling and in this calling it requires this sacrifice and it's not going to be something that you want to do but it's something that i'm going to ask you to do it takes maturity to do that if you are thinking about in just yourself you can't do it it's not there for you to do it's off your radar it's beyond reach you're out at the endless inconvenience but but but the church has to change the church has to grow up because if we don't what will happen is that the charlatans are going to have all the people right the charlatans are going to gather all the people because they will lie to them they will deceive them they'll tell them what they want to hear and they'll gather them right okay if we don't create an environment where what the charlatans are offering not the bad sides of what they're offering but the but the good sides of what they're offering if we are not able to present it to them and all we are doing is we're modeling a a selfish kind of christianity that is only thinking about itself all our children are going to be in the hands of the charlatans and and this is just the truth because our children are growing up in an individualistic culture so by default their mindset is individualistic you have to you have to intentionally come against that to fix it otherwise they'll grow up into it this is why they're growing up and they're not looking back they're not thinking about their mom they're not thinking about their dad right or thinking about their family because they're not thinking about their family they're not thinking about their family because they're not thinking about their family they're not thinking about their family because they're not thinking about their culture that is telling them that right the only way you can help them is if you train them intentionally to come out of that and live differently but what if we ourselves have the same problem there's nothing to teach you can't teach it because you yourself are not even living it and i'm speaking too much let's pray let's pray in tongues let's pray in tongues a bit and i give some directions we want to be a church like jesus had in mind we do we do And then we want to model that to other people. And so I'd just like you to unmute so I can hear you pray so I don't feel like I'm the only one here. We want to, what Jesus had in mind when he started his church, [00:37:16] (157 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


A family that is thinking about what he's, what are you trying to do, God? What can I do to help you and your family? Where do you want me to be? Where do I position myself? [00:39:57] (15 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


Lord, we recognize the importance of personal freedom, but Lord, help us to be a people that understand this place and then [00:42:59] (11 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


Lord we want to be a balanced people, a people that [00:45:41] (5 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


personal freedom but also understand family that understand community that understand commitment that understand accountability that understand interdependence that understand selflessness that understand sacrifice [00:45:46] (20 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


name in Jesus name we're going to continue praying in a minute but I just want to read a couple of scriptures to you because the scriptures are the basis of our prayer our prayer has no meaning if the word of God is not at the basis of it but here's another scripture that I often share with the worship team which is very powerful that I just want to draw to your attention in 1st Timothy 4 .12 Paul says to Timothy let no one despise you for your youth but set the believers an example in speech in conduct in love in faith and in purity let me read from the King James this doesn't sound right [00:47:52] (43 seconds) (Download raw clip | Download cropped clip)


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