Embracing Biblical Leadership in a Skeptical Culture

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"we should be different from the rest of the world we're going God I actually want your leadership in my life I want your your commands in my life I want to be a part of your kingdom I want a king it's not like uh you know when in the period of the judges where everyone just want to do what was right in their own heart we're going no we want leadership Lord we love your leadership we love your commands that's weird to the world" [00:00:00]

"my best understanding of scripture is the church is not just hey everyone we we are all absolutely 100 equal male female slave free whatever in the sight of God as far as positionally before him but uh there is clear evidence in the New Testament that there ought to be spiritual leadership in the church and so I know a lot of the smaller Church movements uh tend to be about hey there's no leader amongst us we're all just buddies hanging out we don't feel like we need a leader" [00:04:29]

"scripture seems to suggest or even even command very strong suggestion um that there's a role for the Shepherds for the leaders and uh and they're there to take care of the flock well I mean even just that analogy of a Shepherd to A Flock um I mean it's not like all the Sheep are just hanging out it's like who wants to lead today you know it's there's there's a clear leader amongst them and I see that in scripture" [00:05:11]

"my first thought is when people hear Authority it's like a bad word it's negative and I my mind goes to Ephesians 4 where it's talking about uh Christ and it says when he ascended on high he led a hope host of captives and he gave gifts to men and saying yes send and what does it mean but that he also descended into little regions the Earth he who descended as the one who ascended far above all the heavens that he might fill all things and he gave the apostles their prophets their evangelists the Shepherds and teachers to equip the Saints for the work of Ministry for building up the body of Christ" [00:07:20]

"we as Believers we we should be different from the rest of the world we're going God I actually want your leadership in my life I want your your commands in my life I want to be a part of your kingdom I want a king it's not like uh you know when in the to the judges where everyone just wanted to do what was right in their own heart we're going no we want leadership Lord we love your leadership we love your commands that's weird to the world and now we're supposed to take it a step further where we go God you say you've given us this gift of leaders in the church where are they you know I I want to come under them and I want to find these these Godly leaders who will help me in the ways of God that's the way it ought to look" [00:08:59]

"you know like Paul tells Timmy watch your life and your Doctrine closely and there's something about your life and your doctrine that will ensure the salvation of your hearers and so you first have to look at your own life as a leader and go why would people want to follow me and that's that's a it's tough to get to the root of that and to be honest with that and take time and to try to look at yourself as an outsider and go wow if I saw Francis Chan in his life would I follow him when I respect him what I want to say hey teach me because I want to I want to become like you I want to imitate you like the like Hebrews 13 says imitate their faith" [00:11:28]

"you know when leaders start saying follow me um almost in a fair sake away you know like Jesus says Hey listen to what they have to say but don't do what they do um that's very hard to do and I think that's that's that's why a lot of Believers parishioners find themselves in this place where if they're really honest they're gonna I don't I don't respect him and uh which at that point you go well then I don't know if you should really be in that church" [00:14:36]

"some of you that are listening right now are in major sin that you don't want anyone to know about and what I will say about this is gosh I've heard people say oh you know I just I know I've committed adultery a hundred times I mean this is not I heard this recently you know but I'm going to keep leading worship um even though I've done this uh a hundred times in the last few months um because I'm anointed and it's for the sake of the church okay look you are first you're a hypocrite secondly you're not helping the church um it's it's like Aiken's sin in the Old Testament you can hide it but then all of Israel gets punished and they're wondering why" [00:27:53]

"there's a blessing upon the church when we're walking together in unity and Purity um and so God blesses that and so we we've got to understand that the best thing you can do for your church is to step down um to be honest and don't they want to protect the church by hiding my sin no that's gonna kill us you know it's almost like Jonah being on that ship and it's like what these storms are gonna die just toss Jonah overboard some of you guys need to do the Jonah thing you know you know what it's me I'm I'm gonna go for a swim you know and I know that's that's a tough thing to hear" [00:29:00]

"the church just doesn't look real attractive to the world this is all they're seeing and they're not seeing enough of the other side of what Christ offers and that real life and peace and joy and holiness gift to us is the ability to put to death the Deeds of the flesh because we're in such a great love relationship yeah and as you're sharing too is so good like I think about so on the other side of the spectrum picturing the people who maybe were in a church where they experience some unhealthy things from leadership or maybe even to the point where like hey extreme hypocrisy you know something comes out and it's devastating for them" [00:31:59]

"we're commanded you know I'm in Hebrews 10 you know not to neglect this this Gathering of the Saints so I don't really have that choice from a follower of God I can't neglect these things and then you also look at the the gifts in the in the mention of First Corinthians 12 through 14 and how the I can't say to the hand I don't need you it's you're a part of the body and you're supposed to be you're like you're one finger you know and you're you're uh you're trying to go off by yourself like that's not um there's a way in which we're supposed to work together" [00:33:31]

"there's something about gathering for communion you know First Corinthians 10 there's something about not being divided and you come together and there's this Koinonia that you have with the body and blood of Christ as you have it with the rest of the body and once you separate from that he says that is not even the Lord's Supper anymore once there's these divisions so I I would say I get it there's some people that have hurt you pretty badly and and I'm not excusing that or belittling that I'm just saying don't make things worse on yourself by separating from the very Church from which Christ says this is where you're going to learn love this is where you're going to be completed this is where the spirit Works through you for the greater body" [00:35:37]

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