Divine Grace and the Nature of Free Will

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"I find myself often in debates with friends and family over Calvinism and arminianism uh they're all Armenian I try to represent the other side with Clarity and charity, one of the arguments that I come back to repeatedly is about Free Will and what I see in Jeremiah 24:7 quote I will give them a heart to know that I am the Lord and they shall be my people and I will be their God for they shall return to me with their whole heart in quote." [00:00:20]

"So what we need are new desires that want the right things God must act to give us new desires or we are hopeless this is Sovereign Grace in The Miracle of regeneration how much of your discussions over Free Will centers on this fact that we all have free will and we all need a new heart a new will first let me commend Matthew for defining what he means by Free Will that's really unusual I appr it very much because in in most discussions people use the phrase as though it were clear when in fact most people have very different views of what free will means." [00:01:00]

"Freedom of the will he says is the freedom to do and believe what we most desire and I think that if we are going to affirm the existence of Free Will among Fallen People Like Us that's the definition we need to use because it answers the question how people can be free whom the Bible says are dead in trespasses Ephesians 2:5 slaves of sin Romans 6:20 under the Dominion of sin Romans 3:9 blind to spiritual reality 2 Corinthians 4:4 hardened against God Ephesians 4:18 and unable to submit to God Romans 8:7." [00:02:02]

"Given Matthew's definition of freedom uh such dead enslaved dominated blind hard impotent people have freedom of the will because it means that they are free to do and believe what they most desire namely sin that's what they're free to do and I would agree that if we're going to maintain that the will is free that is the definition we should use so to speak of free will then is is to speak of a will that is free to do and believe what it most desires but is not free to desire God above all else." [00:02:58]

"Most people who reject calvinistic or reformed understandings of human depravity and Sovereign Grace that is required to bring a dead hard blind person to saving faith is that this definition of Free Will is not acceptable to them they're not it's not acceptable because it still leaves a person unable to provide the decisive thing that leads to conversion namely the strongest desire to trust Christ it leaves a person in the bondage of their strongest desires which are against God." [00:03:47]

"A fair definition of what the Armenian requires is Free Will defined as the power of decisive self-determination in other words what the Armenian requires is that at the precise point of conversion where saving faith comes into being it is man and not God that at that point provides the decisive and effective influence that's what the Armenian must have to make his views work whatever influences God may give prior to that point call them prevenient Grace that's what the army wants to call all the illuminating freeing grace of God prior to that point." [00:04:43]

"Whatever influences God may give prior to that point The Armenian insists that the final decisive creation of the strongest effective desire for Christ must be self-determined hum determined not God determined so Matthew asks me how much of your discussions over Free Will centers on the fact that we all have free will and we all need a new heart and a new will and my answer now is that I don't usually start with Matthew's definition of free will it may be helpful in some discussions to Define free will that way." [00:05:41]

"I find that it is most Illuminating most convicting most clarifying to start with the definition of free will that Armenians really do need in order for their views to make sense namely the definition that Free Will is the power of decisive selfdetermination or I sometimes use the phrase ultimate selfdetermination with this definition then it appears that Armenians believe in such Free Will and Calvinists do not believe in such Free Will I certainly do not believe there is such a thing as human Free Will defined as decisive self-determination." [00:06:30]

"The other thing that I find clarifying and helpful in conversations with folks is to point out that Free Will understood as the power of ultimate or decisive self-determination is not taught anywhere in the Bible not a single verse not a single text teaches that there is such a thing as the power of ultimate human self-determination so where does that idea come from that we must have ultimate self-determination it comes from a philosophical presupposition that people bring to the Bible." [00:09:05]

"The philosophical presupposition is that if we don't have ultimate self-determination we cannot be held accountable for our own beliefs and actions before God well the Bible simply does not affirm that presupposition the Bible teaches that God has ways we do not understand and that he knows how to govern all things including the human will in such a way that we are truly responsible truly accountable and he at the same time is truly Sovereign and oh how we should be thankful for this Sovereign Grace because without it we would be utterly hopeless in the bondage of our spiritually dead Hearts." [00:09:56]

"If you find yourself unable to love God unable to trust Christ don't despair Jesus said with man it is impossible but With God all things are possible resolve to seek him come to him look to his suffering for the worst of Sinners and ask God for the grace to see and Savor Christ free to do what we most desire but not free to create desires for God Amen that's the grace we owe everything to the miracle of Sovereign Grace to give us those new desires for God." [00:10:55]

"Thank you Pastor John that is a Theology of Sovereign Grace that makes the heart want to sing oh wow that's so good and if you want more on this hot debate over free will it includes the most asked about Bible text we have ever gotten questions about here on this podcast I'm speaking of Romans 9:22 check out the text and then check out the episode uh that we released this spring apj 2028 titled your most asked about Bible verse your most asked about Bible verse ABJ 2028 you can find it at Ask Pastor john.com thank you for listening and for making good use of the archive I am Tony ranky we'll see you on Monday." [00:11:40]

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