Defending Westcott and Hort: Context and Integrity in Theology

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"Westcott doesn't say there Christ is not God. He doesn't say Christ and God are distinctly different in essence. He just says that Christ is in absolute union with God. So he recognizes a distinction. That is just basic Trinitarian grammar, right? Like Father, Son, and Spirit are distinct in person. But one in essence. So if you actually read what Westcott says there, there's nothing even remotely like a denial of the deity of Christ." [00:04:50]

"just three supporting arguments to make this astoundingly important charge that Westcott and Hoare denied the resurrection of Jesus. He worked in this book with only five books that they had written and blatantly disregarded what they clearly spoke in those books about the resurrection of Jesus. But he apparently, Waite apparently came across at some later point, someone who pointed out to him that Westcott had actually written two volumes entirely about the resurrection of Jesus." [00:09:54]

"The appropriate Christian thing to do is to step back and say, I am sorry. I have made this accusation against someone, wasn't even familiar with their writings, and I need to take that back. But instead, unfortunately what Waite did was wrote an entirely separate book called Westcott's Clever Denial of Christ's Bodily Resurrection. Now walking through those two books to just try to twist each of his words around and say, well, he didn't actually believe in a bodily resurrection." [00:11:08]

"So these men went through very rigorous ecclesiastical sanctions, not the right word, examination, where they were specifically and directly asked about their faith. And they had to confess the 39 articles. And article four is extremely explicit. And they both held to this article throughout their lives and affirmed it. And it states this, Christ did truly rise again from death and took again his body with flesh, bones, and all things appertaining to the perfection of man's nature, wherefore he ascended into heaven." [00:14:47]

"Without finding very clearly affirmation of the deity of Jesus and the resurrection of Jesus. I mean, this is not something that's hidden. It's not something that's hard to find. And literally, anyone who makes this accusation reveals that either A, they have never read anything that Westcott or Hort wrote. Or B, they have read it and they are lying about them. That is really the only two options when it comes to these two vicious, pernicious, slanderous accusations that are made against them." [00:16:09]

"Book that doesn't affirm the bodily resurrection of Jesus. So let me read just one quote from that book out of what literally could be hundreds Westcott wrote that according to the divine instinct of the first age the message of the resurrection Sums up in one fact the teaching of the gospel It is the one central link between the seen and the unseen We cannot allow our thoughts to be vague or undecided upon it with impunity We must place it in the very front of our confession with all that it includes or we must be prepared To lay aside the Christian name." [00:19:42]

"here's what's going on but then i want to actually read the statement that he has pulled out of its context there and i'm just going to read this selection of the letter to you and i want you to listen to it so that you understand what sorenson has done what horde actually said was this i owe you many apologies for my remissness in writing to you about the invitation to to take part in the essays and reviews i must decline so high in honor the chief impediment is a wide difference of principles and opinions from the body of your co -adjusters he goes i disagree with you guys widely here's what he said i fear that our own positive theology we should diverge widely he disagrees with the liberals i have or it says a deeply rooted agreement with the high churchmen as to the church ministry sacraments and above all creeds like he's passionately orthodox with that small o though he says by no means acquiescing in their unhistorical and unphilosophical treatment of theology or their fears and antipathies generally he thought they were afraid of criticism he said this here's here's the quote listen the" [00:22:57]

"yeah exactly and one of the things that i think peter said for us so helpfully a couple of sessions ago he talked about the passage that describes in the king james translation raising up a false report the idea that okay maybe someone originally way back when has created this lie even if i am not personally lying and i am not personally maliciously twisting someone's words if i take that false report and i raise it up and i spread it and i share it i share a moral culpability in that so anyone that's repeating that form of the quote that has cut off a section of hort's words and cut out a section of hort's words so that it makes it sound like he's saying evangelicals are perverted and i don't know what to do with that i don't know what to do with that i disagree with them about the authority of the bible you still bear a moral culpability for being willing to repeat that false report without taking the 30 seconds of your time that it would take to look up the quotation and read it in its context right it" [00:27:28]

"this true. This is an accusation that we hear a lot specifically because they're working on you know a biblical text that's going to shape the revision, they're working as revisers from 1870 to 1881. So we really hear early really commonly read in literature defending the King James Bible or the TR. Well these being denied the inspiration of Scripture. They just didn't believe in the inspiration of Scripture. Well no that is blatantly untrue. Both Westcott and Hort firmly affirmed the supernatural origin of Scripture." [00:39:18]

"word or maybe they believed in inspiration i'm sorry no uh westcott used that word plenary yeah yeah yeah use it and he uses it several times in his affirmation but sometimes people say oh well they didn't believe in verbal preservation and trying to make it paint their uh view as somewhat less orthodox perhaps westcott said this the bible is more than a book it is the voice of god answering to the voice of men and then he went on to say this behind beneath in each act and word there is an unseen power virtue comes forth from the letter in answer to the touch of faith that's an affirmation of verbal inspiration behind every word he says is the spirit of god working and moving in fact we mentioned earlier they were both ordained they went through in the church of england you have to be ordained to be a deacon first and then ordained to be a priest and they were both priests and then westcott went on to be ordained as a bishop they were specifically at those ordinations asked do you believe in scripture i'm going to just read the question they were directly publicly asked and what they said to it they were asked do you unfeignedly believe all the canonical scriptures old and new testament both of them firmly replied i do believe them so you know they're they're on record on public record affirming and believing in the inspiration of scripture they were asked are you persuaded that the holy scriptures contain sufficiently all doctrine required uh of necessity for eternal salvation through faith in jesus christ are you determined out of these scriptures to instruct people basically are you going to spend your life preaching this bible that you believe in and they both answered i am so persuaded and have so determined by god's grace these were christian pastors we may disagree with them at some point but they were christian pastors who were part of a theological tradition that firmly held to the inspiration of scripture they publicly confessed in examination that they believed in the inspiration of scripture and they went on throughout their lives to write and teach about and affirm the inspiration of scripture so when someone comes along and says oh they didn't even inspired that is slander that is a false report that someone has either invented or is unwittingly raising up and spreading and it is not true and Christians should speak truth I" [00:39:18]

"We need to be really careful within a particular framework. We might think, well, this person's belief involves or requires a denial of the inspiration of scripture. But it's just not true. It's not charitable to force that framework onto others and say, oh, well, therefore, their belief requires a denial of the inspiration of scripture. Do they actually deny inspiration? We have to be willing to step back and say, from their perspective, maybe I disagree with their perspective, but from their perspective, do they affirm or deny? And Westcott and Horth are both on public record firmly affirming the inspiration of scripture." [00:43:50]

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