Creating Space for God: Embracing Spiritual Disciplines

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"Normally when I present these especially in a conservative Protestant setting, everyone says, gee this is great, study worship, fellowship and so on. They look over this other side and say, isn't that kind of Catholic, and they are, and of course they were badly used, they were badly used and that's one reason why people sort of figure that they got nailed on the Wittenberg door, the one in Wittenberg not the one in San Diego uh with the other stuff, uh unfortunately that's that's a very bad mistake." [00:10:32]

"And the reason I distinguish these and I discuss this at greater lengths in the book of course, is because these are primarily ways in which we empty parts of our lives out that are overly processed, maybe food maybe company or whatever, we might call it responsibility which is a good thing so then we need to empty that out, and we need to step out of that and really frankly I was driven into this whole teaching as a as a young person because I couldn't make." [00:61:12]

"See I was very impressed with people like Charles, Jonathan Edwards and other people of that sort and still am, so I wanted to make that work, I couldn't get within a smell of it, I moved over and realized I had a lot of work to do over here, and frankly things got better, they got better, and I realized then that I was overly occupied with good things, and I didn't have room to let these flourish in me." [00:96:56]

"And I learned what it was to spend long periods of time in a room alone with God, and the transforming effect of that on the soul, along with experiences tremendous experiences that then I get a whole picture so that's why that's why I make that list the way I do, and, and of course, like in the book I'm sorry to be referring to it over and over again but I have a whole chapter on the history of the disciplines." [00:138:64]

"And of course history is very strong isn't it, and strongest perhaps when we don't even know it's there, so we have to come to grips with that, that's a very important point." [00:171:20]

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