Contrasting Legal Philosophies: Morality vs. Pragmatism

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"Morality was truth and truth had been revealed a man and an unbroken continuous and consistent flow by their great prophets and poets of all time he quoted Goethe and German and from Euripides by way of Gilbert Murray on it win an impressive almost frightening glimpse of an elemental force." [00:02:57]

"The Justice wrapped the mantle of Isiah around himself, dropped his voice of a full octave, jetted as I browse forward in a most menacing way and began to prophesy morality was truth and truth had been revealed a man and an unbroken continuous and consistent flow by their great prophets and poets of all time." [00:02:57]

"Critical legal studies group on the left, critical race theory, critical feminist theory all that flows from from that they speak very prophetically and I think powerfully about injustices within the country but their underlying their underlying theory is that all laws power and it's just a matter of gaining power." [00:05:36]

"The real purpose of law is efficiency and I by the way when as a Christian would say there's things to learn there's value in both of these but both of them are reductionistic the other school that hasn't gained nearly the influence that they have but that has given credibility I think to a more on the 19th century viewpoint is the new natural law theory." [00:06:46]

"Brandeis thought the movement should be completely in the opposite direction that business should adopt professional standards etc and when he when he describes when he defines what a profession is number one is the level of learning required number two it's an occupation which is pursued largely for others and not merely for oneself." [00:08:59]

"George charge Wood says it's the duty of counsel to be the keeper of the conscience of the client not to suffer him through the influence of his feelings or interest to do or say anything wrong David Hoffman said he wouldn't take a claim that wasn't a just claim quote the the good lawyer or the client shall never make me a partner in his knavery." [00:10:30]

"One of the risks of believing in a higher law or moral knowledge is that it can be you know a hammer for and it can be abused and Blackstone is kind of the hero of natural lawyers I mean he believed slavery was consistent with the common law now he came around interestingly by the the influence of some people associated with the Clapham sect." [00:11:34]

"If we're going to claim moral knowledge and act based on moral knowledge we need to carry with that sense of modesty which Brandeis and our friend Dallas Willard had in spades so just a couple of critiques and then then a suggestion going going forward I mentioned the new natural law Dallas at page 367 gives us his definition of of a good person." [00:13:10]

"John Finnis is the within legal education the the champ champion of the new natural law so that's kind of legal philosophy the paper I talked also about legal ethics and you see parallel developments there also in many ways epitomized by Brandeis in homes and things that they they said and I didn't we didn't we didn't plan it this way." [00:07:13]

"By contrast moral sayings are mainly focused upon the face-to-face interactions do unto others as you would have them do unto you and love your neighbor as yourself are two of the most well-known of such sayings you know that with the scare quotes and you know never a mention of Jesus or you know somebody it just seems like he's sort of running away." [00:17:12]

"Lawyers can abuse the authority that that they have I mean can be paternalistic can be authoritarian and can fail to listen to clients can fail to to really speak for for clients I love Brandeis this little quote which he used over and over and over again all this law clerks heard this one from Euripides the worldly wise are not wise claiming more than mortals know." [00:12:43]

"Individuals that are intent upon advancing the various goods of human life with which they are effectively in contact in a manner that respects the relative degrees of importance of those goods into the extent to which their actions can actually promote the existence and maintenance of of those Goods and then over on the next page down at the bottom he identifies what he means by human goods." [00:14:00]

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