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``But we lead by serving. Philippians chapter two, Jesus Christ, the son of God with all authority at the right hand of the father, He comes to the earth, what does he do? He empties himself. He leads like a humble servant all the way to death on a cross. Men are called to lead. Men are called to lead And I think we gotta reframe that because again, many of us, we think about that and we get a tick in our neck and we're so afraid of this whole conversation while our world is struggling, while our women and our children are struggling and while men are being passive and watching it happen.