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``But then Jesus takes that a step further and says, but one is coming after me, this counselor who will be with you, who will be this connection to my presence, who will be this way for you to hear my voice, to speak directly, to tear down this bear any kind of barrier that ever existed between God's presence and ourself. And we, when that curtain is torn in Christ's crucifixion, in this resurrection, this opportunity for new life, we have full access to god's presence despite what we deserve, and we have the ability to step into his presence and know him.