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We're going look at this question and the question is, what's the win in a relationship? What is the win in any given relationship? And the answer to that is simple. It's the relationship. That's the win. The win is having a mutually satisfying, mutually enjoyable relationship. That's the win. Where no individual person is winning and no individual person in that relationship is losing because if one person loses in any relationship then both people lose in the relationship. And many times what happens is when there's a winner and a loser, the two of the two of you lose the relationship.