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``But what it means is he wasn't marked by the type of communication that was manipulative or gaslighting. He wasn't marked by the type of stuff that intimidated people. He wasn't marked by that type of preaching. The Bible says he spoke up and said, anybody who wants to figure out what's in my heart, understand this. I am lowly and gentle of heart. And that's what Jesus is. But if you are programmed to try to listen to something in a certain type of way that allows you to rigidly follow something that makes you feel better out for yourself and is motivated by fear, fear won't get you the distance. Love will motivate you to the distance.